Marans - SOP discussion thread

[BarnGoddess01]

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Don, I see eye color as a fault, not a dq, and a crow head would also be a fault, not a dq.
I would also add that any comb other than a single comb would be a dg, not just a carnation comb.
The Marans standard also says that a hen in lay, shall not be penalized for a loped comb. So in that case, it is not a fault or dq.

Sue, Sorry to say but you are wrong on all your assumptions here. I doubled checked the SOP before postings. I stand by all points of the POST

I have seen first hand that a hen in lay is not DQ'd for a loped comb - even at the BIG shows (and they WERE DQ'd for a lot of other stuff) so I know she's not wrong about ALL her assumptions.

 

[snowbird]

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Sue, Sorry to say but you are wrong on all your assumptions here. I doubled checked the SOP before postings. I stand by all points of the POST

I have seen first hand that a hen in lay is not DQ'd for a loped comb - even at the BIG shows (and they WERE DQ'd for a lot of other stuff) so I know she's not wrong about ALL her assumptions.

The SOP say no female with a straight comb shall be penalized if they have a slight lopped. If they have a full lopped they are to be DQ.

Will let someone else finish as I knew this would be a bad idea. Good luck to everyone

 

[Shikoba]

i just bought 2 BCMs thast have black eyes is that ok for show and SOB?

 

[DMRippy]

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Eye color takes time to develop, months really.

 

[DMRippy]

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I have seen first hand that a hen in lay is not DQ'd for a loped comb - even at the BIG shows (and they WERE DQ'd for a lot of other stuff) so I know she's not wrong about ALL her assumptions.

The SOP say no female with a straight comb shall be penalized if they have a slight lopped. If they have a full lopped they are to be DQ.

Will let someone else finish as I knew this would be a bad idea. Good luck to everyone

Don please reconsider! This really would be a VALUABLE list for everyone with Marans. If we had a complete list with PICS it would help everyone, not just Marans people. You said yourself, three years of culling for these issues and these problems could be removed from these great birds.

 

[Lotsapaints]

Speaking for DQ's and faults any one who wants to breed better birds should buy a Standard.....it gives you all the cuts then Don will not have to explain what he's spent time on writing out for all of us I really can't blame him for wanting to quit with his comments

it just seems like a waste of his time...just saying

 

[Lotsapaints]

You need to buy a Standard it will be 10 years or so before a new one comes out the DQ's and Faults are in the first part of the book and there are drawings of a good comb and bad ones explanations of colors and patterns for all the breeds, feathering, shank color etc then you join one of or both of the Marans clubs for the finer points of the standard of Black Copper and Wheatens those are the only varieties approved so far......cuckoo pattern is cuckoo no mater the breed what it is blue is blue etc. You can learn so much without it you are working in the dark.

 

[math ace]

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The SOP's first 40 pages or so list and illustrate GENERAL faults and disqualifiers for all breeds. There are definitions and general scale of points too.

Things like wry tail, roach back, crows head, twisted combs, floppy combs etc . . . are all covered in that section. Those faults and DQ's have been pretty consistent for God knows how many years...

DMRIPPY, you are correct that the SOP does not include the marans specifically.....BUT these are GENERAL faults that ALL breeds are held accountable to.

Things like the correct eye color are faults unique to marans. Those faults won't be in the 2010 SOP.

 

[BarnGoddess01]

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The SOP's first 40 pages or so list and illustrate GENERAL faults and disqualifiers for all breeds. There are definitions and general scale of points too.

Things like wry tail, roach back, crows head, twisted combs, floppy combs etc . . . are all covered in that section. Those faults and DQ's have been pretty consistent for God knows how many years...

DMRIPPY, you are correct that the SOP does not include the marans specifically.....BUT these are GENERAL faults that ALL breeds are held accountable to.

Things like the correct eye color are faults unique to marans. Those faults won't be in the 2010 SOP.

Black Copper Marans are part of the SOP, however, not yet published in the current book. The Wheatens have also just been accepted. You have to go the the MCCUSA site for the official SOP descriptions. All other the other general stuff in the published book.

 

[pinkchick]

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This is AWESOME Don!!!!!!
If you need any help with anything just tell me....don't ask, just tell.

Pictures, info., whatever you need.