Marans Thread - breed discussion & pictures are welcome!

[Debbi]

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Here is the BC color Standard submitted by the MCC. I don't see where it mentions undercolor on the body. It should. It also does not address white feathers in the tail and wings....it should. At t his point without a complete description from the club, I can only say that white feathers in the wing or tail would be a fault in each section.

Walt Leonard

Black Copper Marans Standard

Color of Male

Disqualifications:
Brown triangular wing bay. Golden or Straw colored hackles.

The cock:
The Ideal specimen will represent a color balance of Black and Copper. The cock must be Black with Copper finery, the hackles and the small of the back are Copper colored, with a Black or slightly reddish-brown marked breast.


Comb, Face, Wattles and Earlobes: Bright red.

Beak: Dark Horn.

Eyes: Reddish Bay.

Shanks and Toes: Dark Slate, bottom of feet pinkish white.

Head: Deep Strong Red Copper color.

Neck:
Hackle: Deep Copper color. ( mid-coppery to red-coppery, but not golden or straw colored )
Front of neck: Black with narrow lacing of deep Copper.

Back:
Back: Lustrous Deep Copper.
Saddle: Deep Copper color matching the hackle.
Tail:
Main Tail: Black with slight luster.
Sickles and Coverts: Lustrous black with glints of beetle Green.

Wings:
Shoulders: Mahogany Red color.
Bows: Lustrous Deep Copper to match back.
Coverts: Lustrous black forming a black armband.
Primaries: Black.
Secondaries: Black, ( exposed portion forms a lustrous Black Triangular wing bay ).

Breast: Black or with slightly Copper marks.

Body and Stern: Black.

Legs & Lower Thighs: Black

Shank and Toe Feathering: Black.

Ear Down: Brown


Color of Female

Disqualifications: Brown spotting on the body.

The Hen:
The hen must be black with a copper hackle.

Comb, Face, Wattles and Earlobes: Bright red.

Beak: Dark horn.

Eyes: Reddish bay.

Shanks and Toes: Dark Slate, bottom of feet pinkish white.

Head: Copper. ( varying from mid-copper to red-copper ).

Neck:
Hackle—Copper with a black-colored tip. ( spreading out almost down to the breast ).
Front of neck—Copper

Back: Black.

Tail: Black.

Wings: Black.

Breast: Black.

Body and Stern: Black.

Legs & Lower Thighs—Black.

Shank and Toe Feathering—Black.

Ear Down - Black

Hello Walt, thanks for coming aboard! I see in this copy of the proposed, that there is nothing DQing the lack of shank feathering? I had thought that I had read before that a lack of shank/toe feathering was a DQ? Also, in the leg color, I thought that white was preferred, but in the BCM the slate coloring was allowed. Am I wrong here or does this keep changing? It's getting so hard to keep up! Thanks again for your input!

Germaine, You have a good bunch to start off with!

 

[fowlman01]

Debbi

That would be a defect. I have an email into the club to clarify some of these points. I will need that information before the qualifying meet.
Lack of leg feathering should be a DQ and needs to be added. The leg color has been changing, but last I heard it was slate.
Walt

 

[Lotsapaints]

3rd day in a row for a dark egg I'm not sure it could be the same hen she laid her first egg then waited a week and laid another one Tuesday that was beautiful and yesterday I got another one looks like hers then early this morning another egg but small and duller like a first egg from somebody else..now I've had 2 of my french cuckoos in the nest box lots but the combs are only bright pink but they have doubled in size in days is it possible?

 

[geebs]

Fowlman It is nice to get some good feedback on here. It is also great to see someone with obvious years of experience take the time to give us a tutorial and back it up with years of experience and pictures... Loved the website. Thanks for sharing.

 

[fowlman01]

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Thanks!

 

[Germaine_11.20]

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Hmmm I don't think they are going to double in size that fast. How many do you have? It seems that when one starts laying the rest fall in close behind.

I was only getting 1 or 2 for about 2 weeks out of my Bev pen but yesterday I got 5.

 

[math ace]

PINK - - - I want to see more pictures of your eggs - - - Don't stay away too long.

RUSTY - - - So many roos, I don't know how I would make a decision with that many.

Fowlman01 - - - I am following you on the heritage thread, too.

I miss Bev Davis's comments on this thread - - - I hope she visits again soon.

CluckyCluck - - - nice to see you on this thread - - - WELCOME !

Debbi - - - I appreciate the tone and patience you show with others on this thread!

There have been some very experienced and nice people on this thread.
I hope these good people will not let the comments of others keep them away from . . . . .

PLEASE, everybody, remember that there are gentle ways to say what you want to say . . ..
It won't be much of a thread if everybody leaves because they have been offended.

 

[snowbird]

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Mathace, I had said I was leaving the forum for a while but decided to ask Walt to come to the thread to help out with some of the questions. I will be gone now and the thread can go back to the way it was before. Wish everyone luck with their Marans.

 

[berkeleysprings]

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[fowlman01]

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Here is the Standard submitted by the MCC. It is also on their site. Read it and we can talk. Note, that it does address the undercolor in the Wheaten. I am doing research now on the white feathers in the tail/wings of the BC's. It appears to be addressed in the general DQ's under "foreign color".

Read it over and we can talk about it when I return Monday. I can answer quick questions until tonight.
Wheaten Marans Standard

Color of Male

Disqualifications:
Spotted Breast. Black or no Triangular wing bays at all.

The Cock:
Wheat cocks are black, with a coppery-red coat, and so looking like the Black Copper cocks except as for the triangular wing mirror which is brown.

Comb, Face, Wattles and Earlobes: Bright red.

Beak: Light horn shading to white at tip.

Eyes: Reddish bay.

Shanks and Toes: Pinkish white.

Head: Light orange, free from dark feathers.
( varying from golden-red to brown-red )

Neck:
Hackle: Light orange, free from dark feathers.
( varying from golden-red to brown-red )
Front of neck: Black.

Back:
Back: Mahogany Red
Saddle: Mahogany Red color matching the hackles

Tail:
Main Tail: Black with reddish cast.
Sickles and Coverts: Black with glints of beetle green

Wings:
Shoulders: Strong Mahogany Red
Bows: Strong Mahogany Red to match back
Coverts: Lustrous Black forming a bluish black armband.
Primaries: Black, edged in brown.
Secondaries: Brown with internal Black barbs forms a Brown Triangular wing bay.

Breast: Black.

Body and Stern: Black.


Legs:
Lower Thighs—Black
Shank and Toe Feathering—Black.

Ear Down: Brown

Undercolor: Light slate. Very light in hackle and saddle

Color of Female

Disqualifications: Washed off back colors.

The Hen:
The hens coat is a wheat color (the color of the grains of wheat). Each feather has a lighter staff and edge. Head and hackles are a rich wheaten color. The breast and the all underside of the body are cream colored. The secondary color is whitish.

Comb, Face, Wattles and Earlobes: Bright red.

Beak: Light horn shading to white at tip.

Eyes: Reddish bay.

Shanks and Toes: Pinkish white.

Head: Rich Wheaten. ( varying from golden-red to dark-red )

Neck:
Hackle: Rich Wheaten ( varying from golden-red to dark-red )
Front of neck: Rich Wheaten ( varying from golden-red to dark-red )

Back: Wheaten

Tail: Black with brown and black colored edges.

Wings: Wheat color

Breast: Cream color.

Body and Stern: Light Creamy Wheaten.

Legs & Lower Thighs: Light Creamy Wheaten

Shank and Toe Feathering: Light Creamy Wheaten

Ear down: Cream color

Undercolor: Whitish to Cream color