Marans Thread for Posting Pics of Your Eggs, Chicks and Chickens

[geebs]

Awesome.. I will try it once... If it works.. Cool... if not... I have another fabulous colored breakfast egg... (already been eating them... just thought I would try to hatch a few) Thanks... I will give it a whirl. I will hatch 3 of em and see. Thanks oodles pinkchick!!!

 

[Germaine_11.20]

If you do make a cross and get BC pullets, they won't breed true will they? Wouldn't you get the other 1/2 of the cross ishowing up in their chicks?

 

[geebs]

Good question... I have no idea...cuckoo came from somewhere and black came from somewhere and there is very little blood in the us... I hope someone answers that one...

 

[Germaine_11.20]

Uh oh...we killed the thread! Hello? Anyone out there?

One more question to verify---if a BCMarans lays an egg and the egg is light in color due to whatever reason (not making the chart) am I correct that it is not a Marans?

 

[megcpat]

That does NOT mean that it is not a Maran, just that it is not a dark egg laying Maran. The genes for dark egg color are there, it just takes some careful breeding to bring it out.

 

[Germaine_11.20]

per Blackdotte: Don't confuse the concept with a pedigreed registered herdbook animal with a standard bred fowl.
Poultry breeds do not have pedigrees, or are individually registered & recorded in herd(flock)books.
Poultry are Standard bred, that is bred to meet the written description (the Standard) for that breed.
Because many non American breeds of poultry are not recognised by the APA does not mean that they should all be considered rubbish and denigrated.
Marans are a French breed, the have a French Standard (which is also the Common European Community Standard) for the breed. A Marans to be called a "pure bred Marans" (these words are covered by an International Trademark) must meet all the requirements of the Standard, which includes type, size & weight, plumage colour, and egg colour.
It is a stupid statement to say if the don't they are Silkies or Cocker Spaniels!
A bird that does not meet the requirement of its breed Standard, such as single comb Wyandottes,
black legged Sussex etc can and should not be deemed to be a Standard specimen of that breed.
Consideration also need to be taken of the fact that the phenotype (what the bird looks like) may be obtained by a number of different genotypes ( its genetic make up). This accounts for the fact that many show winning birds can not be replicated in the breeding pen.
So what do you call a bird that does not meet the Standard - you call it what ever suits you. If you are out to make money out of ignorant fools you call it a Marans, if you want to kid yourself you call it a Marans, if you are truthful you call it a 'Marans in progress' or just a fowl.
David

 

[megcpat]

Hmmmm, so what do you call the small percentage of Marans chickens that will not lay a dark egg even though their dam and sire are both dark egg layers? Or who have too much feathering on too may toes though their parents have the one feathered toe per standard? Genetics always throws us some odd combos, and I have never heard of these being called anything other than Marans that are not up to standard, or not fit for breeding, etc. It is odd to read that man's comments.

 

[megcpat]

When I said " it is odd to read that man's comments", I meant the blackdotte quote, not you rusty'swoman. I have just never heard of an inferior of a breed not being labeled with the breed name.

 

[Germaine_11.20]

I know, and that's why I am asking. I do understand the principle. BCMarans are a complicated breed and for them to be considered BCMarans from everything I read then (at least SOP and APA approved) then everything must be correct including egg color.

So if a hen lays a 6 egg and then lightens to a 3 what do you do? Can you sell her eggs as BCMarans eggs?

 

[megcpat]

Well, they sure are selling some light "BCMarans" eggs on e-bay!!!!!!! But that has always made me wonder if they are legit. By the way, who is blackdotte?