Marans?

[TheOddOneOut]

Black copper Marans with whitish floof?
I haven't seen that before.
@TheOddOneOut what are your thoughts?

Idk, I think they aren’t great quality. Maybe Black Marans?

 

[emalin]

I got them from a small farm advertising as a breeder of BCM.

 

[Rhodebar Lover]

There are multiple lines of Marans. Those bred to the French standard have feathered legs, those bred to the American SOP have clean legs. They are very likely still Marans

 

[gimmie birdies]

These are mystery assortments I got from Meyers, just wanted to see if you guys thought they may be Marans. (chicks were from brown egg layer and rare assortment. The company does NOT breed black stars.) 4 weeks old legs are clean but for maybe one feather on one leg.

second chick has chubby cheeks so maybe a ameracauna...

 

[MysteryChicken]

These are mystery assortments I got from Meyers, just wanted to see if you guys thought they may be Marans. (chicks were from brown egg layer and rare assortment. The company does NOT breed black stars.) 4 weeks old legs are clean but for maybe one feather on one leg.
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second chick has chubby cheeks so maybe a ameracauna...

Possibly an Australorp.

 

[MysteryChicken]

These are mystery assortments I got from Meyers, just wanted to see if you guys thought they may be Marans. (chicks were from brown egg layer and rare assortment. The company does NOT breed black stars.) 4 weeks old legs are clean but for maybe one feather on one leg.
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second chick has chubby cheeks so maybe a ameracauna...

What type of comb does the second one have?

 

[emalin]

Would appreciate leads on good stock. My daughter is obsessed with BCM & wants to sell "chocolate eggs". Only two hatched out of my first half dozen, and I would like to hatch from different lines anyway. Although I'm more inclined to buy chicks after this first BCM hatch--I didn't know about the difficulty with extra hard shells until too late. Two chirped but couldn't pip. I intervened too late. Hate that.

 

[gimmie birdies]

All single-good point.

 

[Thomas Bright]

Way too much miss information out there on Black Copper Marans. Black Copper Marans were admitted into American Standard Of Perfection just 2 years ago, It may have been 3 years. They used mostly French standards and they must have feathered legs. Not hard to fix but should have feathered legs. English Standard calls for clean legs. They just wanted to be different.
There is a web site International Black Copper Marans Forum 1500 pages of proper Marans breeding go there read it. The true number 1 quality of Marans is egg color. Very hard to find and breed . I am in Eastern Wash. state. Have been Black Copper Marans for 5 years and I love these birds. You will not get quality birds from the hatchery and you will not get the dark eggs. TOM

 

[Rhodebar Lover]

Way too much miss information out there on Black Copper Marans. Black Copper Marans were admitted into American Standard Of Perfection just 2 years ago, It may have been 3 years. They used mostly French standards and they must have feathered legs. Not hard to fix but should have feathered legs. English Standard calls for clean legs. They just wanted to be different.
There is a web site International Black Copper Marans Forum 1500 pages of proper Marans breeding go there read it. The true number 1 quality of Marans is egg color. Very hard to find and breed . I am in Eastern Wash. state. Have been Black Copper Marans for 5 years and I love these birds. You will not get quality birds from the hatchery and you will not get the dark eggs. TOM

My bad! Not sure when I got the idea that APA Marans were derived more from the English rather than French standard. One of my poultry breed books has clean-legged Marans in it and I must have just assumed... Thanks for the information! I definitely have had that assumption for years