Mareks-proud flesh skin condition?

[shorthills]

Hi
Does anyone know what this skin condition could be? The hen is eating, alert and talking but shows signs of Mareks disease in her legs. Ive been soaking her in Epsom salts every day, tried Polysporin,Bag Balm, Witch Hazel,
Nothing is helping. It looks like it is trying to heal but has been nearly a month.She is separated from the flock.

 

[chooks4life]

Hello and

Going to need a picture to get an idea of what it might be.

Best wishes.

 

[shorthills]

This photo was taken yesterday

 

[shorthills]

This photo was taken March 12th when I noticed her. There was a large dark crusty scab which I pulled off, under was this granular white tissue and bad odour.

 

[chooks4life]

Wow, that is severe.

I would suggest a vet if you can get one. That does not look like something for which a home treatment would likely work; it's advanced, unusual and massive and the chook looks pretty far gone already.

However I know many people can't access vets... Can you get something antibiotic, antibacterial and antiviral? Whether over-the-counter or alternatives? Both internal and external treatment I'd think is necessary.

You could use raw garlic, a clove or two daily in the feed, which can help with many things, and topically pure and undiluted Stockholm Tar (pine tar) can also help heal a lot of seriously infected and disfigured injuries or infections while both disinfecting and soothing pain.

But really that looks like something that will take a vet to attend to and even then it doesn't look good, sorry.

Perhaps a tumor but it looks a bit more like an opportunistic infection or overgrowth of something, not a normal wound at all; perhaps a skin disorder caused by Marek's or Avian Leukosis Virus or secondary to infection with such a disease; apparently sometimes they do cause obvious disturbances on the skin, it's just that I've never seen anything like that before in my own chooks with Marek's or ALV. Is there any smell to it that you could describe?

Good luck with the chook.

Best wishes.

 

[shorthills]

I found a wound dressing with pine tar.The sales person said it worked well on a badly infected wound on her horse.
It has taken the odour away. The odour was overwhelming...like sweet putrifaction smell. I know it looks horrible but otherwise she's acting normal. I have had livestock most of my life and have not seen anything like this. That's why I joined the forum, hoping for someone to say "oh I know what that is!"
I was sure it was proud flesh in the beginning and am not convinced it still isn't What was white granular tissue
( similar to cheese curds in consistency) is now brown and scar-like and vascular. It bleeds slightly in the cracks.
If this ointment doesn't help I'm going to email Elfrida Poultry Diagnostics Centre.
Thanks for your suggestions!

 

[chooks4life]

Good to hear you already have livestock experience and got a good recommendation from firsthand experience with that pine tar stuff... I have found it downright miraculous in what it's been able to treat.

I've used it on cysts, foreign bodies trapped in muscle, missing body part stumps, gangrenous mauling wounds of extreme depth and messiness, both ulcerous and enclosed staph infections, external parasites, shattered and exposed bones, and so much more. In dealing with foreign bodies that are encapsulated in tissue, it just makes them vanish like magic, lol. (I've used it on myself for that, I have no idea where the glass shards etc went, but vanish they did!). I've used it on footrot, dog and fox bites, various hoof issues, horn issues, and more. Even dental issues. It's amazing stuff.

Having used it on myself, for a variety of things, I know from firsthand experience that the pain just vanishes almost instantly, and stays gone in most cases, though sometimes a far milder degree of pain comes back in the next two days. It heals scarlessly in almost all cases, regardless of how messy they were and how large. I never cleaned out any wound before applying it either, it's great at drawing out and excluding foreign matter and infections even if there are layers of sound tissue between the tar and infection or foreign objects. And you don't need to cover the treated area, it makes a very effective cover.

I've used it on wild animals which resisted the first treatment until the analgesic effects kicked in (which it does within a second or two), then came willingly for the second one and even assisted in applying it. (I generally use two applications/treatments 48 hours apart, and that does the job seemingly regardless of what is being treated and how severe it is. Mild things take one treatment).

I hope you have as great an experience with it as I've had.

It definitely seems like a highly opportunistic infection and I've never seen the likes so can't help any more than what I've tried to do, but I hope your chook recovers. I know colloidal silver gets a bad rap but I've seen it work before, can link to you scientific research on it if you doubt the antibacterial, antiviral etc qualities of it, and would suggest you give the chook some of that orally if you feel inclined.

Best wishes.