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Good news! There was a break in the rain so I went out to check. Earline was out scratching but the new girl was inside, in the nest box and laid an egg!!! So, I guess this means they're doing just fine.
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Last year was our first year and we started with chicks. I can't even begin to tell you the losses we had. We had a couple die quickly, probably from shipping stress that we got from our local TSC. A tiny little bantam that we thought for sure wasn't going to make it and it perked up and was doing great, just to pass without reason about 2 weeks later. Then the predators start. A dog we use to have started killing them. It was almost impossible to stop him. He started attacking our other animals and became protective aggressive and had to go. We got 2 more dogs, about 4 months old. They did pretty good with the chickens until they killed their first one, then it was game on. The had to be rehomed. We had 2 we lost at about 4 months a few days apart, we are thinking maybe a hawk tried picking them up but dropped them? They had no signs of trauma other than a little blood at the mouth. There was also an order of bantams that I suddenly realized we needed to do a head count and we had gone from 30 to 14...turns out it was a feral cat (or cats) that was picking them off. At first it must have been eating them and taking them somewhere but then it just started killing them. A couple got into the water buckets for the mini cows we use to have and drowned.
We sold a number of our chicks before we started experiencing losses and wish we wouldn't have. After everything was said and done we had 100 chicks total and we have 6 standards and 2 bantams left from last year. It was probably a 50/50 sell/loss...I felt like a chicken murderer.
This year we've lost 7 out of our fist order of 17 chicks due to extreme cold and shipping losses. Our second order did great and all 14 survived, our 3rd order did great and all 27 survived. I then bought 10 bantams and 2 ducklings at our local TSC and they are doing good. We had 2 loses yesterday, there must have been a spot in the grow out pen we missed that 2 of the chicks got out and our dog was 'playing with them' and killed them.He is not like the other dogs we had that went after the chicks as prey and as long as we can keep the chicks away from him, he ignores them. Its a different situation than we dealt with last year but still hard. He stays away from the grown hens just fine since it's 'obvious' they don't want to play with him.
I was just patting myself on the back yesterday, before the losses, on how much better we are doing this year than last year. You learn as you go. I felt sick last year every time I thought about how we had failed and almost gave up a few times but learning from our experiences and the experiences of others on this site has helped.
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I'll need to research coccidian more. The last reference I read on the subject referred to it as bacteria.Welcome! Medicated chick starter feed is meant to help control their exposure to coccidian, which is a one-celled intestinal parasite. Nothing to do with bacteria at all. If the chicks had coccidiosis vaccine, that means they were exposed to a very small dose of the parasite, and the medicated feed will kill of that tiny parasite load, so the inoculation is overcome and useless. Chicks raised under a broody hen are exposed to their environment sooner, so generally develop immunities more gracefully. Mary
i have found that some but not all chicks that you get through the mail are 1/2 dead when they arrive
that is why they tell you to give them medicated feed
without it the losses can be even worse.
i like going to a local breeder & picking up the chicks rite then & there
if one looks to not be 100% leave it there
medicated feed isn't needed if the birds havn't been shipped,i never use it
also if there is a problem a good breeder may be willing to replace the birds
now as far as dogs & such i don't know of anyone who was 100% set up for chickens till they got some
as a rule of thumb i never let birds younger than 8 weeks out of the coop
then at 8 weeks i allow them to come outside but only when i am around
if you train them with bread they will be glad to go back into the coop anytime you wish
just be sure to give them their bread once inside, they love it.
good luck
piglett