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Hey gang, sorry been swamped. Just wanted to update on two fronts. Left Eye our blind out of one eye, was tried at flock integration with issues. I put Isis and Gretchen two sweet petite EE in the enclosed run with her and they did great! If anything Left Eye was more territorial about her run, coop and food. I picked the right girls for the job. They didn't fight her just ran and avoided her. I put them up in the small coop at night and they did fine. Then Thursday, I decided to open up the run and let them out as Left Eye was now scratching for food with the girls and roosting up in the run. So she ws eager to join the gang and her eye is no longer swollen or red so I figured the less time away the better. So I stayed and watched, well almost immediately leaving the run she was attacked by the youngest RIR Roo and he was pretty rough with her, she ran to he free range area after that and was attempting to eat and she was attacked by one of her Delaware sisters. She then rested under a tree and was again attacked by Rojo the big RIR Roo's. Rocco broke that up but she basically ran back into the run and into the smaller coop and into a nest box. So I closed her up and gave her some time. Then opened the coop again and left for awhile. Later she was out in the run on a roost. I left and returned after the heavy thunderstorm to find the entire flock huddled in the large coop. I thought great, this is gonna work out ok. Well came out 15 minutes later and found Rocco and Rojo ganging up on her in the run. Enough that she had her head buried behind a board and she wasn't moving. Well that upset me and I went and picked up Rocco by the feet and then carried him around in my arms while I chased down Rojo. Seems sort of silly now but I guess my mama chicken came out in me. I then put her back into the enclosed run with Isis and a Little One (another EE).

Also yesterday I observed the little red RIR chase and holding onto one of the Buff Oprh roosters, so things have been escalating between all the roosters. Plus observed some hens getting mated by Rocco and then immediately Rojo. Now all four roosters were all trying to mate. The girls have been nervous and a lot had been flying to the top of the 6 foot fence rails and roosting all day. The EE seemed especially flustered and a few had tried roosting in the tree's the last couoke nights, as they didn't seem to want to be in the coop. Bruno one if the Buff Oprh's was losing weight, being starved out of the food, mostly by Rojo. He spent a lot of time in the coop. So all of those things combined, we decided that the two RIR roo's were becoming thugs and seemed to upset the girls the most, so it was decided we would cull and process both of them today.

So we locked them in the enclosed run over night with most the flock in the big coop and Left Eye and the two EE in the small coop. Then is am after letting the main coop our for free range we moved them in there after an hour or so everyone seemed to already be allot calmer, the dynamic shift was already apparent. So we gave thanks and reverence to both rooster and then got to work. This was my first processing and to be honest I was a bit nervous, but after the initial head chopping it got easier. We processed both boys and cleaned them up. They both are in the fridge right now, We will eat one on Sunday. My BF was tremendous in teaching me the ropes and I obviously couldn't have done it without him. So just wanted to state two things, I learned many lessons from those roosters in my short chicken raising time. I also felt it was important to be involved in all of it, as that was the reason we got them. To be connected to our food source, to know they had a good life, were raised and treated well. So now the circle has come full circle for me and all I can say is thqt I feel very blessed to have had t:rolleyes:his chance to be involved in my food source, as many people will never have that connection.

So it has been a long week, given the injured bird. She was able to successfully integrate with the flock today and I am glad to report she roosted up with everyone in the main coop tonight. So for that I feel great about our decision on the RIR roosters. Also today the flock seemed pretty content, the flock engergy was more mellow and I saw one girl up on the fence and that was only briefly. I observed no fighting between the two BO Roo's. So I would say this affirms our thoughts about the other two, RIP Rojo and Little Red.

Sounds like you made the right decision. Our one rooster, Dinner, behaves similarly to your RIR roos. Not only is he rough with the ladies I have noticed our head roo, Carter (BCM) gets too excited and rough when he is around and they seem to team up on the ladies, but if I separate Dinner, Carter is a gentleman and courts the ladies properly. Obviously we've always had plans to process Dinner, but it's coming time to do it asap.

How old were your roos?

I've processed a few chickens before, but never the actual dead. DH did that. This time though DD wants to do it as long as she doesn't have to see any blood. She wants to break his neck. He is so mean to the girls she hates him. I'm glad by the time she's my age, raising her own food will be second nature for her. Although at this point she says she's only ok with killing animals she doesn't like. Next year we'll have enough meat birds I think she'll get over that though.

We also have a chick (SLW) that is a roo, I think his new name will be Nuggets instead of Poppy.
 

Obviously you did great! A happy flock is the proof of that. I still go back and forth in my mind about processing extra roos (or mean girls). I hope I have the strength to do it some day. I'm so glad this has worked out for Left Eye and the rest.
 
So we gave thanks and reverence to both rooster and then got to work. This was my first processing and to be honest I was a bit nervous, but after the initial head chopping it got easier. We processed both boys and cleaned them up. They both are in the fridge right now, We will eat one on Sunday. My BF was tremendous in teaching me the ropes and I obviously couldn't have done it without him. So just wanted to state two things, I learned many lessons from those roosters in my short chicken raising time. I also felt it was important to be involved in all of it, as that was the reason we got them. To be connected to our food source, to know they had a good life, were raised and treated well. So now the circle has come full circle for me and all I can say is thqt I feel very blessed to have had t:rolleyes:his chance to be involved in my food source, as many people will never have that connection.

So it has been a long week, given the injured bird. She was able to successfully integrate with the flock today and I am glad to report she roosted up with everyone in the main coop tonight. So for that I feel great about our decision on the RIR roosters. Also today the flock seemed pretty content, the flock engergy was more mellow and I saw one girl up on the fence and that was only briefly. I observed no fighting between the two BO Roo's. So I would say this affirms our thoughts about the other two, RIP Rojo and Little Red.


Thank you for sharing this. You definitely did the right thing. I was feeling sympathy stress reading the beginning and thought oh no too many roosters. I know not everyone here has it in their heart to cull and process Roos but I admire you for doing so with reverence and for all the right reasons, taking care of your flock and feeding your family. Our first group of 5 layers are pets and will get to live out their retirement but after them my husband and I need to have a serious discussion especially if we hatch or breed and have excess roos. I know he doesn't like the idea, but we strive to eat naturally humanely raised and local food, can't get much more local that your own backyard.

Yesterday I was dealing with Amelia our Golden Buff who was showing signs of prolapse. She wasn't completely hanging out but her uterus kept protruding and it looked like she had a hard time eliminating. I observed this once a couple days ago whem she was preening but when I picked her up to examine she went back to normal amd closed up. But yesterday I saw it twice, so she got to soak her bum in warm water, sprayed with Vetericyn and then the fun part of trying to push things back in. She didn't get closed up quite as tightly as I'd have liked but seems to be able to eliminate much better. I had her out in the tractor/moveable pen by herself so observed her droppings. She's eating and drinking and foraging and perching well, showing no signs of being egg bound. I'm still worried that when she lays her first egg she will prolapse again or become egg bound :/ she and her sister will be 21 weeks tomorrow. Everyone make sure you have latex gloves, ky jelly and preperation h in your first aid kit, luckily it was my husband day off and he was able to run to CVS for me.
 
Yesterday I was dealing with Amelia our Golden Buff who was showing signs of prolapse. She wasn't completely hanging out but her uterus kept protruding and it looked like she had a hard time eliminating. I observed this once a couple days ago whem she was preening but when I picked her up to examine she went back to normal amd closed up. But yesterday I saw it twice, so she got to soak her bum in warm water, sprayed with Vetericyn and then the fun part of trying to push things back in. She didn't get closed up quite as tightly as I'd have liked but seems to be able to eliminate much better. I had her out in the tractor/moveable pen by herself so observed her droppings. She's eating and drinking and foraging and perching well, showing no signs of being egg bound. I'm still worried that when she lays her first egg she will prolapse again or become egg bound
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she and her sister will be 21 weeks tomorrow. Everyone make sure you have latex gloves, ky jelly and preperation h in your first aid kit, luckily it was my husband day off and he was able to run to CVS for me.
In my first flock from Meyer, I found one of my Golden Buffs dead in a nest box. She looked like she was trying to lay an egg, but just put her head down and went to sleep. Her vent was slightly prolapsed, and upon further examination she also showed signs under her skin of maybe a heart attack..hemorrhaging seemed evident. I have read from several Meyer peeps that the GB's can succumb to sudden death around 8 months due to heart issues, and she was exactly 8 months old. I am not experienced enough to do an autopsy, and buried her out back. I wonder if I had been looking more intently at that time, if I would have noticed the signs you mention. Very good advice, and these are wonderful things to have in your medicine kit. Thanks!

MB
 
Obviously you did great! A happy flock is the proof of that. I still go back and forth in my mind about processing extra roos (or mean girls). I hope I have the strength to do it some day. I'm so glad this has worked out for Left Eye and the rest.
I completely agree! As chicken owners we have to do what is best for our flock. Mean roos are not good for the flock!
 
Yesterday I was dealing with Amelia our Golden Buff who was showing signs of prolapse. She wasn't completely hanging out but her uterus kept protruding and it looked like she had a hard time eliminating. I observed this once a couple days ago whem she was preening but when I picked her up to examine she went back to normal amd closed up. But yesterday I saw it twice, so she got to soak her bum in warm water, sprayed with Vetericyn and then the fun part of trying to push things back in. She didn't get closed up quite as tightly as I'd have liked but seems to be able to eliminate much better. I had her out in the tractor/moveable pen by herself so observed her droppings. She's eating and drinking and foraging and perching well, showing no signs of being egg bound. I'm still worried that when she lays her first egg she will prolapse again or become egg bound :/ she and her sister will be 21 weeks tomorrow. Everyone make sure you have latex gloves, ky jelly and preperation h in your first aid kit, luckily it was my husband day off and he was able to run to CVS for me.

In my first flock from Meyer, I found one of my Golden Buffs dead in a nest box.  She looked like she was trying to lay an egg, but just put her head down and went to sleep.  Her vent was slightly prolapsed, and upon further examination she also showed signs under her skin of maybe a heart attack..hemorrhaging seemed evident. I have read from several Meyer peeps that the GB's can succumb to sudden death around 8 months due to heart issues, and she was exactly 8 months old.   I am not experienced enough to do an autopsy, and buried her out back.  I wonder if I had been looking more intently at that time, if I would have noticed the signs you mention.  Very good advice, and these are wonderful things to have in your medicine kit.  Thanks!

MB

Interesting...not sure how I missed both of this posts, but good info. Thank you.
 
Sounds like you made the right decision. Our one rooster, Dinner, behaves similarly to your RIR roos. Not only is he rough with the ladies I have noticed our head roo, Carter (BCM) gets too excited and rough when he is around and they seem to team up on the ladies, but if I separate Dinner, Carter is a gentleman and courts the ladies properly. Obviously we've always had plans to process Dinner, but it's coming time to do it asap.

How old were your roos?

I've processed a few chickens before, but never the actual dead. DH did that. This time though DD wants to do it as long as she doesn't have to see any blood. She wants to break his neck. He is so mean to the girls she hates him. I'm glad by the time she's my age, raising her own food will be second nature for her. Although at this point she says she's only ok with killing animals she doesn't like. Next year we'll have enough meat birds I think she'll get over that though.


Roo's where 4 1/2 months old, I definitely think just keeping in mind the flocks health and well being is the key. Also it was hard but I tried to keep emotions out if it. The head chop was left to BF as I figured I can try that down the road when I am more experienced with processing. IMO if you do involve your DD then that would be a great lesson for her to learn at a young age. People are way too disconnected from their food sources. Shoot people don't even know that blue, green and pink eggs all can be laid by chickens. I would discuss what you are seeing as behaviors in the roosters openly with her. Discuss the importance of keeping a balanced flock, etc.


Obviously you did great! A happy flock is the proof of that. I still go back and forth in my mind about processing extra roos (or mean girls). I hope I have the strength to do it some day. I'm so glad this has worked out for Left Eye and the rest.


Thanks, I am hopeful that the flock can get back to a balance now that the mean Roos are gone and left eye is re-integrated with the group. Nobody is laying and they are I think 19 weeks, but given the dynamics it isn't surprising, we have 3 nest boxes that I out fake egg in and the girls have bee checking them out. We are building 5 more this weekend an d hoping to install into the main coop.


Thank you for sharing this. You definitely did the right thing. I was feeling sympathy stress reading the beginning and thought oh no too many roosters. I know not everyone here has it in their heart to cull and process Roos but I admire you for doing so with reverence and for all the right reasons, taking care of your flock and feeding your family. Our first group of 5 layers are pets and will get to live out their retirement but after them my husband and I need to have a serious discussion especially if we hatch or breed and have excess roos. I know he doesn't like the idea, but we strive to eat naturally humanely raised and local food, can't get much more local that your own backyard.

Yesterday I was dealing with Amelia our Golden Buff who was showing signs of prolapse. She wasn't completely hanging out but her uterus kept protruding and it looked like she had a hard time eliminating... I'm still worried that when she lays her first egg she will prolapse again or become egg bound :/ she and her sister will be 21 weeks tomorrow. Everyone make sure you have latex gloves, ky jelly and preperation h in your first aid kit, luckily it was my husband day off and he was able to run to CVS for me.


Yes we are planning on hatching some babies as well and I am sure we will not get all females so I figured this is just something that we have to do. That helped along with the mind set that we intentionally got this flock to help feed us, both in eggs and meat. We also originally bought the two BO Roos because of their reviews and reported docile disposition, but still being a protector for the flock. Hope Ameilia is ok and thanks for posting that info as I am sure at some point in my future chicken rearing that we may face this.


I completely agree! As chicken owners we have to do what is best for our flock. Mean roos are not good for the flock! 


Agree and it amazing now to see how relaxed and content the girls seem. While Rojo was a great partner with Rocco, the alpha, we felt that we needed to give Bruno a chance to step up as the second in command. He was unable to do this as he feared for his life, being chased by giant Rojo and he was getting starved out. I am still seeing Left Eye being chased around this am. She has gotten smart and hides her head when she can, I am sure based on being pecked in the eye. When I am seeing those behaviors, I am giving the rest if the flock distractions, like scratch grains and new straw bedding. This helps keep everyone distracted and I am hoping to avoid the ganging up on her. It hard to not intervene, but I know the flock is doing what comes instinctually and the pecking order is being re-established. I have also seen her fight back some at the other hens when they seem to get too close for comfort, so that is a good sign.

I am glad that others may gain a little bit of insight from my experiences, as that is why I posted. To share and discuss with others. I get that not everyone wants or desires to be involved in the processing, but if you can at all be apart then I highly recommend it. It was pretty amazing to think back to the day we got the 29 peeping babies and how much intention, time, effort, love, compassion and attention we put in with the flock. It felt powerful, that we have the capability to mold our flock somewhat, or that we can influence (in a good way) the flock dynamics. Also given the RIR Roosters reputation as being aggressive we didn't want that being bred into the offspring that we may hatch. After all I was reading that since the RIR Are bred mostly for production, it is really a crap shoot as far as what genetics they carry. That being said, I think that goes for any breed, but less so in some of the other breeds.
 
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Sounds like you made the right decision. Our one rooster, Dinner, behaves similarly to your RIR roos.


One thing I did learn by having multiple roosters is that you need multiple feeding areas, I happen to have the space for more than one, right now I have three feeding spots. It also helps those girls that tend to get chased away from the main feeding spot. It spreads out the flock during meals which helps cut down on the squabbles. Also providing lots of hang out areas, we have 4 large dog run pens that the girls free range so they are able to have space. I read many posts/threads on keeping multiple roosters and the key to reduce the fighting is giving them adequate free range time, multiple feeding spots and space, all of which helps keep the peace. Good luck with Dinner, I am sure he will be tasty. I am going to brine one if the boys today in preparation for tomorrow's dinner. We didn't weigh them yet, but might do that today. If I had to guess, Little Red is 3-4 pounds and Rojo is probably 6-7.
 
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We also have a chick (SLW) that is a roo, I think his new name will be Nuggets instead of Poppy.

This is exactly how my best friend's family names their animals. As my godson informed me when he was small, "Those that are for eating, get food names. Except for Peaches. She's for milk, but she came with that name." (Peaches is his favorite goat, so he's always very sure to make it clear that her name does NOT mean she's for eating, LOL!).
 

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