K2goatsandducks
Songster
1) What type of bird , age and weight (does the chicken seem or feel lighter or thinner than the others.)
8 week old EE, much thinner and lighter than others
1 year old EE, healthy weight, healthy and laying yesterday
2) What is the behavior, exactly.
10 days after acquiring three 6-week-old chicks, one came down sick (former post). I had been putting Corid in their water for what suspected coccidia (no symptoms had been present other than some blood in the poops. One day after stopping the Corid, this chick was hunched in the crate with discharge from her eyes and nose. I isolated her and cleaned her up. Gave terramycin in her eyes and upped the Corid dose to a drench since I suspected she wasn't drinking enough treated water.
Day 1 of illness: facial swelling, eyes sealed shut, fluffed appearance, lethargy
Day 2: big improvement, more energy, reduction in swelling, one eye open
Day 3: regression, more lethargy, eyes closed but less swelling, fluffed, pale comb, discharge
Day 4: Extremely sleepy, eyes closed, fluffed, pale comb, discharge
Day 5: Maybe slight improvement
Day 6: Slightly more active
Day 7: More active, enjoyed some time sunbathing, both eyes open
Today (Day 8): There is still bits of red mucous in her poop, and she is occasionally gaping to breathe. Her eyes are shut again. She still has nasal discharge. She is eating, drinking, and pooping, though poops are teeny tiny like little sparrow poops. Solid texture with urates. Her comb is still rather pale.
3) How long has the bird been exhibiting symptoms?
See above.
4) Are other birds exhibiting the same symptoms?
Yes. 2 days ago another pullet had a runny nose on one side. Other than that, she is normal, so I just assumed she had some irritation.
This morning, however, one of my 1.5-year-old EEs was hunched on the roost with eye and nose discharge and gaping. She is obviously unwell and having some difficulty breathing. I cleared her nose of crust and debris, and tried to wipe her eyes. She refused blueberries and water, but pecked at some scratch. Her comb is bright red.
5) Is there any bleeding, injury, broken bones or other sign of trauma.
No
6) What happened, if anything that you know of, that may have caused the situation.
I stupidly didn't quarantine the three pullets. I got them from a seller I used in the past and thought we'd be okay. I am devastated and kicking myself.
7) What has the bird been eating and drinking, if at all.
8-week-old is on medicated 20% chick starter, drinking water with Corid.
Adult hen is on flock maintainer 16% with oyster shell on the side. Yesterday she ate and drank normally.
8) How does the poop look? Normal? Bloody? Runny? etc.
8-week-old has solid, tiny poops. Color is normal, but they still have bits of red mucous in them. Her siblings have the same red mucous in their poops.
Adult hen's poops have been normal.
9) What has been the treatment you have administered so far?
Corid to all pullets. Terrimycin cream in pullets eyes initially.
No treatment to adult hen yet.
10 ) What is your intent as far as treatment? For example, do you want to treat completely yourself, or do you need help in stabilizing the bird til you can get to a vet?
I will not be able to take the birds to a vet. I will try to continue treatment at home. I know all birds have been exposed at this time, so I am looking for insight on what to expect with management of the illness.
11) If you have a picture of the wound or condition, please post it. It may help.
I can add fresh poop pics or pics of the birds if it will help.
12) Describe the housing/bedding in use
Pullets have been on the ground during the day in a small run, and on a towel in a crate at night.
Adults have straw/shavings in their run, and house, and free-range in the garden during the day.
There is plenty of ventilation.
*****
I know I am looking at likely MG (maybe Coryza?) infection. I don't want to cull my entire flock (2 hens, 1 rooster, these 3 pullets, 10 ducks, and 2 geese), so I am willing to accept a closed flock.
I am wondering if anyone else with MG+ flocks can give advice on how long it takes for them to recover from a bout? Should I separate them? Or just accept the inevitable and let it run its course and try to provide supportive care?
What treatment can I try to provide? (I have access to 125mg Albon tablets that I can crush and disolve in water if it will help. I was planning on administering it to the sick pullet anyway since the coccidiosis still seems to be an issue.)
How long until I can expect to see improvement from the sick birds?
Thank you for any advice. I'm utterly devastated and feel completely responsible for all this.
I just want to do anything I can to help my birds through this.
8 week old EE, much thinner and lighter than others
1 year old EE, healthy weight, healthy and laying yesterday
2) What is the behavior, exactly.
10 days after acquiring three 6-week-old chicks, one came down sick (former post). I had been putting Corid in their water for what suspected coccidia (no symptoms had been present other than some blood in the poops. One day after stopping the Corid, this chick was hunched in the crate with discharge from her eyes and nose. I isolated her and cleaned her up. Gave terramycin in her eyes and upped the Corid dose to a drench since I suspected she wasn't drinking enough treated water.
Day 1 of illness: facial swelling, eyes sealed shut, fluffed appearance, lethargy
Day 2: big improvement, more energy, reduction in swelling, one eye open
Day 3: regression, more lethargy, eyes closed but less swelling, fluffed, pale comb, discharge
Day 4: Extremely sleepy, eyes closed, fluffed, pale comb, discharge
Day 5: Maybe slight improvement
Day 6: Slightly more active
Day 7: More active, enjoyed some time sunbathing, both eyes open
Today (Day 8): There is still bits of red mucous in her poop, and she is occasionally gaping to breathe. Her eyes are shut again. She still has nasal discharge. She is eating, drinking, and pooping, though poops are teeny tiny like little sparrow poops. Solid texture with urates. Her comb is still rather pale.
3) How long has the bird been exhibiting symptoms?
See above.
4) Are other birds exhibiting the same symptoms?
Yes. 2 days ago another pullet had a runny nose on one side. Other than that, she is normal, so I just assumed she had some irritation.
This morning, however, one of my 1.5-year-old EEs was hunched on the roost with eye and nose discharge and gaping. She is obviously unwell and having some difficulty breathing. I cleared her nose of crust and debris, and tried to wipe her eyes. She refused blueberries and water, but pecked at some scratch. Her comb is bright red.
5) Is there any bleeding, injury, broken bones or other sign of trauma.
No
6) What happened, if anything that you know of, that may have caused the situation.
I stupidly didn't quarantine the three pullets. I got them from a seller I used in the past and thought we'd be okay. I am devastated and kicking myself.
7) What has the bird been eating and drinking, if at all.
8-week-old is on medicated 20% chick starter, drinking water with Corid.
Adult hen is on flock maintainer 16% with oyster shell on the side. Yesterday she ate and drank normally.
8) How does the poop look? Normal? Bloody? Runny? etc.
8-week-old has solid, tiny poops. Color is normal, but they still have bits of red mucous in them. Her siblings have the same red mucous in their poops.
Adult hen's poops have been normal.
9) What has been the treatment you have administered so far?
Corid to all pullets. Terrimycin cream in pullets eyes initially.
No treatment to adult hen yet.
10 ) What is your intent as far as treatment? For example, do you want to treat completely yourself, or do you need help in stabilizing the bird til you can get to a vet?
I will not be able to take the birds to a vet. I will try to continue treatment at home. I know all birds have been exposed at this time, so I am looking for insight on what to expect with management of the illness.
11) If you have a picture of the wound or condition, please post it. It may help.
I can add fresh poop pics or pics of the birds if it will help.
12) Describe the housing/bedding in use
Pullets have been on the ground during the day in a small run, and on a towel in a crate at night.
Adults have straw/shavings in their run, and house, and free-range in the garden during the day.
There is plenty of ventilation.
*****
I know I am looking at likely MG (maybe Coryza?) infection. I don't want to cull my entire flock (2 hens, 1 rooster, these 3 pullets, 10 ducks, and 2 geese), so I am willing to accept a closed flock.
I am wondering if anyone else with MG+ flocks can give advice on how long it takes for them to recover from a bout? Should I separate them? Or just accept the inevitable and let it run its course and try to provide supportive care?
What treatment can I try to provide? (I have access to 125mg Albon tablets that I can crush and disolve in water if it will help. I was planning on administering it to the sick pullet anyway since the coccidiosis still seems to be an issue.)
How long until I can expect to see improvement from the sick birds?
Thank you for any advice. I'm utterly devastated and feel completely responsible for all this.
I just want to do anything I can to help my birds through this.
