Michigan Thread - all are welcome!

Welcome to the new folks! Thanks for the good posts, 1muttsfan. If it was January, the weather would be fine, and May would be much closer. My run still isn't covered, and the water line still isn't buried to the coop. Ah well, maybe next summer?! Mary
 
:( that's tragic! Lost a chicken to the cold already?

I"m worried about mine as well... I have 6 Isa browns that made it through last winter in a tiny coop, but my 4 EE's (hatched in February) haven't had to deal with winter yet, and they don't seem to be tolerating it well.

I built a new coop (much bigger than the last, with better/more ventilation), and my Isa Browns and my ducks seem to be doing JUST FINE! But my EE's are huddled together on the highest perch and shivering and/or hiding under the coop (which sits about 2" above ground level, they dug a little hole to get down there).

Should I be worried?
If they are huddled together and shivering, I would be worried. There isn't a draft on them is there? We are just starting winter & its only going to get worse/colder from here on for at least the next 3 months. Maybe try giving them scratch just before bedtime? The corn should help them and a full stomach (crop)l will help, just make sure they have water. So far mine are enjoying the weather, but I haven't had the snow yet,mostly just the cold.

Well, i had already spent the $200 on the vet, they didn't know. Others have done the same, isn't showing up on normal cultures! Usually i'd be thinking the same thing but in this case if you know it isn't your usual run-of-the mill mg/crd, and you gave tylan to no use, you might want to consider this before wasting your $$$ at the vet's. I don't begrudge them, they told me important things i needed to know to treat him. But not everyone can run right out there and do that, we all want to but realistically most birds will never see a dr's office.

I do not know how widespread whatever it is has gotten, just from the deaths and stories, speaking to others have confirmed it. What i do know is it is stumping drs too, and i am very good at diagnosing things myself and it had me stumped for months. At some point i will get bloodwork done. When i know i will pass it on, bad or good.
Have you tried the vets at Michigan State? I mean calling them, not taking an animal to them. or the ag extension in your area?
 
Even the merecks manual for poultry states that it is hard to get a good culture in birds that are not dying. I am going to get full blood workup on a bird this spring to see what they do and don't have.

You guys need to collectively make up your minds. Either you want to learn to i.d. sickness accurately and do your own physicals, learn what med does what for what sickness, or you ought not scoff at anyone who takes one to the dr. My birds are my prize possesion emotion aside.

I thought some of you might appreciate the blunt head's up, in case it hits your area. I guess if anyone needs help pm me. I personally refuse to feel bad for getting my birds proper care.
 
Even the merecks manual for poultry states that it is hard to get a good culture in birds that are not dying. I am going to get full blood workup on a bird this spring to see what they do and don't have.

You guys need to collectively make up your minds. Either you want to learn to i.d. sickness accurately and do your own physicals, learn what med does what for what sickness, or you ought not scoff at anyone who takes one to the dr. My birds are my prize possesion emotion aside.

I thought some of you might appreciate the blunt head's up, in case it hits your area. I guess if anyone needs help pm me. I personally refuse to feel bad for getting my birds proper care.
I was going to thank you last night for what you are doing. I have "something" going through some of my birds and have learned a lot from what you are sharing. Right now the chicks that are sick are on Tylan 50 and seem to be responding, 'tho I lost two and could kick myself for not staring earlier. If they did not respond, I was going to get my hands on a sulfa drug next, thanks to what you have learned. They are chickens and we need to decide to go to a vet or learn ourselves how to treat them from other's experiences. Thank you!
 
You guys need to collectively make up your minds. Either you want to learn to i.d. sickness accurately and do your own physicals, learn what med does what for what sickness, or you ought not scoff at anyone who takes one to the dr. My birds are my prize possesion emotion aside.

I thought some of you might appreciate the blunt head's up, in case it hits your area. I guess if anyone needs help pm me. I personally refuse to feel bad for getting my birds proper care.


I appreciate & completely respect your knowledge! All of this sounds so foreign to me with it being my first year. I don't even know when I'm supposed to de-worm my chickens (?). I'll keep an extra eye on my birds...and I'll message you if need be! I appreciate their egg supply, but I value the other positive ways they've changed my life!
 
No one should make you feel bad about what you are personally willing to spend on your birds. Everyone spends their disposable income a they see fit, and I am sure we all wonder how others could spend on something we don't value as much. I applaud your efforts to help your flock. There are risks involved, though, that people not as well-informed should be aware of before deciding whether treatment or culling is a better choice for them. Not everything can be cured.

Dawg53 is an experienced poultry health advisor here on byc, and has many posts related to treating sick birds.
 
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Well the birds spent most the day outside. My black Ameraucana, Kali, could care less about the snow. Opened the door. Out she came, snow up to her belly. She will do anything to get to a blade of grass! One of my EE pullets didn't care either. The rest, well, this ain't their first winter! They were a little slower at coming out (except for BUG, one of the PRs.she LOVES to come on the deck, which she made a bee line for). Once they got out, the spent the afternoon pretty much under the front deck (faces south) scratching & dust bathing & sunbathing!!

Kali leading the flock...
Go Kali! My girls did NOT want to venture into the white stuff until I threw BOSS on top of it and even then they were skeptical. Sassy, the tiny bantam decided my shoulder was her roost while the rest were pecking the ground in the run.Travis is an outdoor guy and Spartacus seems to be the couch potato, he hangs out by the nest boxes. LOL

Welcome to all the new folks.
 
:( I've now lost 3 chickens to the cold/lack of water. All three of my juvenile mille fleur, which i wasnt expecting at all because they are fully feathered. But i discover there are drafts in the temp coop, the boards that make up the walls are saw milled lumber and with the cold they have shrank just enough to let the wicked winds we have had blow in. i think that is mostly what got the younger ones, lack of water maybe if the older birds were pushing them off the water dish before it froze. ive been watching to make sure everyone drinks but maybe they were not getting enough. For last night i put boards leaned up against the wind side of the coop and today hopefully we are going to get some housewrap to put around the coop to stop the breezes at chicken height. Luckily we have warmer weather for a few days.
 

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