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Anyone have any tips for de-mudding my chicken run? With all the rain it's a disgusting stinky slop. What's the best way to fix this? Wood chips? Sand? (Or might that add to the mud?) I'd like to stay away from straw, which seems to stink really badly when wet... We are having family and friends over on the 4th and I need to fix the ew going on currently.
 
While I'm sure you'll probably find someone to disagree with me, I would recommend that you never use bio-degradeable materials. They are only a temporary measure and soon just add to the problem. Gravel and sand are far better in that they hold no odors as straw or wood chips will. They displace water rather than absorb it. I probably tracked dirt in to the house before many of you were born so you can rightfully assume I've got more than a little experience with mud.
 
Well I hooked up with Clay Avenue Cellars (Bob) and basically threw out all my wine recipes after talking to him. He'll be my go-to for now. Quaint little place in Muskegon if you're ever passing thru. Looks like he's expanding towards food, wine, and beer in the future too! With all the cherries, grapes, and apples I should be all set. And, I think I'll try blends of strawberries, raspberries, blackberries, elderberries, blueberries, and whatever else comes in excess. Now, time to mix my first fermentation batch, here we go...
You might want to beg, borrow or steal some elderberry wine for a taste test before making much of it. Years ago my wine making partner and I made a large batch (5 + gals) and Found it to be so distasteful that we spiced it till it was drinkable but still took years to consume it and ended up with more than half of it down the drain. Elderberry, sounds good. We found it to be acrid.

All the rest of your types can turn out great. Good fermenting, and all that goes with it. Try dandelion. great sweet wine.
 
Does anyone know if garlic and ACV in water would react in a negative manner? I'd like to just crush some cloves in the water rather than use the powder cause there is no way to make sure they eat the powder, but they all drink the water.
I read on a goat site that a lady does just this for her herds water. She drops cloves in the ACV to "stew" than adds about 3 tsp to a 6 gallon water bowl. Me, on the other hand, only add ACV to their water for mosquito and health benefits ( I think).
 
You might want to beg, borrow or steal some elderberry wine for a taste test before making much of it. Years ago my wine making partner and I made a large batch (5 + gals) and Found it to be so distasteful that we spiced it till it was drinkable but still took years to consume it and ended up with more than half of it down the drain. Elderberry, sounds good. We found it to be acrid.

All the rest of your types can turn out great. Good fermenting, and all that goes with it. Try dandelion. great sweet wine.
My dad made dandy lion wine when I was a kid. He just dug out his recipe last week for me.
 
You might want to beg, borrow or steal some elderberry wine for a taste test before making much of it. Years ago my wine making partner and I made a large batch (5 + gals) and Found it to be so distasteful that we spiced it till it was drinkable but still took years to consume it and ended up with more than half of it down the drain. Elderberry, sounds good. We found it to be acrid.

All the rest of your types can turn out great. Good fermenting, and all that goes with it. Try dandelion. great sweet wine.
My dad made dandy lion wine when I was a kid. He just dug out his recipe last week for me.
 

Blue Berry, a blue marans hen laid her first egg since coming to live here before the flood... I found it in the phoenix coop. I just about giggle my self to wet pants after finding it...


This is Blue Berry's egg next to a regular sized egg...

BUT! Wait! It gets better... I wanted to see if there was anything in this tiny little prank of an egg...


Yup. Complete with a yolk... AND there was a little meat spot on the yolk. LOL.

I found this before the neighbors kid ticked me off big time.

I was sitting at my kitchen table, looking out at my birds, and I see them all run for the neighbors house. The neighbors throw crack out for them and their birds. Then I see Andrew, the 20-21 yr old kid, kick my rooster Strutter. Not because Strutter had spurred him, but because Strutter was trying to mount one of their POL birds. Now... Strutter has been courting these POL birds for a few, and they all come over to him the minute the neighbors let them out of their little coop and run. SO... Strutter was just doing what roosters do, and the pullet was just doing what pullets do. Objecting. But not only did Andrew kick him off the pullet, he proceeded to chase him out of the yard and kicked him again in his backside. I yelled out the door, Carl said, "He was pestering the girls." I said, "Fine, chase him off but don't kick him, I don't' want him getting mean." He said, "He didn't kick him," Bull pucky. I saw him. With my own eyes.

What ticks me off is this... Since that brat jerk came home from college for the summer he's been a real glass mole. He used to be very into the chickens. Since he was forced to come home for the summer and get a job to help pay for his next years expenses or live on the street in Cali, he's been aggressive, does his chores angrily and just is an all out donkey. Even his parents have gotten on him about how he has handled some of the birds when they were moving them from one coop to another.

What ticks me off more, is that Strutter is a very laid back, gentle roo. He's the type we all WANT. There is no room for a mean roo. Think being kicked a few time won't have an effect? Maybe not this time, but hey... I have kids who feed this roo out of their hands. He's not aggressive to people. RBahmer wouldn't have given me an aggressive bird. She knows I have little kids. Anyway, can you imagine if he got mad and spurred that butt hat over this? I'd have to consider culling him just because he's defending himself. I'd be so mad. He's the loveliest bird. He's a good 12-15 pounds. Has the biggest head!

I'd like to kick that kid in the pants. Maybe this is the reason their roosters always end up being aggressive.... Kick em a few times for doing what roosters do...

This is Strutter... And Blue Berry... Culprit of the prank egg. You can't call it a wind/fart egg. It is a fully formed, complete egg...
 
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Blue Berry, a blue marans hen laid her first egg since coming to live here before the flood... I found it in the phoenix coop. I just about giggle my self to wet pants after finding it... This is Blue Berry's egg next to a regular sized egg... BUT! Wait! It gets better... I wanted to see if there was anything in this tiny little prank of an egg... Yup. Complete with a yolk... AND there was a little meat spot on the yolk. LOL. I found this before the neighbors kid ticked me off big time. I was sitting at my kitchen table, looking out at my birds, and I see them all run for the neighbors house. The neighbors throw crack out for them and their birds. Then I see Andrew, the 20-21 yr old kid, kick my rooster Strutter. Not because Strutter had spurred him, but because Strutter was trying to mount one of their POL birds. Now... Strutter has been courting these POL birds for a few, and they all come over to him the minute the neighbors let them out of their little coop and run. SO... Strutter was just doing what roosters do, and the pullet was just doing what pullets do. Objecting. But not only did Andrew kick him off the pullet, he proceeded to chase him out of the yard and kicked him again in his backside. I yelled out the door, Carl said, "He was pestering the girls." I said, "Fine, chase him off but don't kick him, I don't' want him getting mean." He said, "He didn't kick him," Bull pucky. I saw him. With my own eyes. What ticks me off is this... Since that brat jerk came home from college for the summer he's been a real glass mole. He used to be very into the chickens. Since he was forced to come home for the summer and get a job to help pay for his next years expenses or live on the street in Cali, he's been aggressive, does his chores angrily and just is an all out donkey. Even his parents have gotten on him about how he has handled some of the birds when they were moving them from one coop to another. What ticks me off more, is that Strutter is a very laid back, gentle roo. He's the type we all WANT. There is no room for a mean roo. Think being kicked a few time won't have an effect? Maybe not this time, but hey... I have kids who feed this roo out of their hands. He's not aggressive to people. RBahmer wouldn't have given me an aggressive bird. She knows I have little kids. Anyway, can you imagine if he got mad and spurred that butt hat over this? I'd have to consider culling him just because he's defending himself. I'd be so mad. He's the loveliest bird. He's a good 12-15 pounds. Has the biggest head! I'd like to kick that kid in the pants. Maybe this is the reason their roosters always end up being aggressive.... Kick em a few times for doing what roosters do... This is Strutter... And Blue Berry... Culprit of the prank egg. You can't call it a wind/fart egg. It is a fully formed, complete egg...
check these tiny things out they came from my sisters hen. The smallest one is being considered for Guinness book of world records
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Anyone have any tips for de-mudding my chicken run? With all the rain it's a disgusting stinky slop. What's the best way to fix this? Wood chips? Sand? (Or might that add to the mud?) I'd like to stay away from straw, which seems to stink really badly when wet... We are having family and friends over on the 4th and I need to fix the ew going on currently.
I agree with Opa....sand.

Beautiful chickens Nova
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Oh, I so agree about the straw also. Yes... It is a temp fix, but takes forever to get all cleaned out when the water dries... Just yuck. AND the smell! OMG... I personally hate the smell of wet straw. I'd go with the pine shavings myself for a temp fix. Yes, it'll take more, but you can rake it all up and use it in paths between plants, not on the plants, or do like I do, I use the totes I clean out each week from the coops to build paths through my woods. Each week, it gets a little longer.

Thanks HH. He's such a lovely boy, and I'd hate for him to get mean cuz the neighbor kid thinks kicking is the solution. I swear... I was just out there, and watching the dynamics. Those same pullets that Strutter was "pestering" are following him around. Some of the other pullets were cleaning Florus's beard... Sheesh.

I'll get over it... I'll get over it faster in a few weeks.
 

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