Michigan Thread - all are welcome!

birds are pretty, tree sap looks nice too, I have one tree that might be almost big enough maybe I will try it next year. some times you can find spikes on sale at the end of the season,

Have a great day all, looks very cloudy here, kind of like rain
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So Saturday i picked up some eggs from a local guy....for hatching. The interesting part is they are F2 Turken X Araucana Eggs so that should make for interesting F2 olive eggers. The parents have naked necks and Araucana tuffs i'm told i didnt see them myself and the guy has all kinds of birds so i'm not sure which pen/coop/area he keeps the turken crosses in.
 
So Saturday i picked up some eggs from a local guy....for hatching. The interesting part is they are F2 Turken X Araucana Eggs so that should make for interesting F2 olive eggers. The parents have naked necks and Araucana tuffs i'm told i didnt see them myself and the guy has all kinds of birds so i'm not sure which pen/coop/area he keeps the turken crosses in.

If they're actual purebred Araucana and not Easter Eggers with muffs/beards, that should be a curious mix. Remember that only a maximum of 50% of the chicks will have tufts. Tufted adult birds are only heterozygous for the dominant allele for tufts, since homozygous birds die in shell.
 
If they're actual purebred Araucana and not Easter Eggers with muffs/beards, that should be a curious mix. Remember that only a maximum of 50% of the chicks will have tufts. Tufted adult birds are only heterozygous for the dominant allele for tufts, since homozygous birds die in shell.
Oh i didnt know only 50% would have tufts, thats good to know....i was more so wondering how many would come out rumpless, i would imagine they are only have one rumpless each since the parents of the eggs are already F1 crosses. i believe they are Aracuana because this particular gentleman knows a lot about birds and has pretty much some of everything right down to pigeons, i did also see an extra rooster he had at another place that was half araucana and he did have tufts..and a tail lol. i guess in 20 days i will know what comes out of the shells.
 
Oh i didnt know only 50% would have tufts, thats good to know....i was more so wondering how many would come out rumpless, i would imagine they are only have one rumpless each since the parents of the eggs are already F1 crosses. i believe they are Aracuana because this particular gentleman knows a lot about birds and has pretty much some of everything right down to pigeons, i did also see an extra rooster he had at another place that was half araucana and he did have tufts..and a tail lol. i guess in 20 days i will know what comes out of the shells.

Yep! Tufted x tufted results in 25% cleanfaced birds, 50% heterozygous tufted birds, and 25% homozygous birds (dead in shell). Tufted x cleanfaced results in 50% heterozygous tufted birds and 50% cleanfaced birds. Tufts are quite obvious at hatch. There may be a single tuft, double tufts. Rarely are there triple tufts, but it can happen, as can chin tufts (most are on the side of the head).

Rumplessness is also a dominant trait so yea, some might be tailed, some might be rumpless. You'll know at hatch. Run your finger over the tailbone area. If you don't feel a little tailbone nub, the chick is rumpless!
 
Yep! Tufted x tufted results in 25% cleanfaced birds, 50% heterozygous tufted birds, and 25% homozygous birds (dead in shell). Tufted x cleanfaced results in 50% heterozygous tufted birds and 50% cleanfaced birds. Tufts are quite obvious at hatch. There may be a single tuft, double tufts. Rarely are there triple tufts, but it can happen, as can chin tufts (most are on the side of the head).

Rumplessness is also a dominant trait so yea, some might be tailed, some might be rumpless. You'll know at hatch. Run your finger over the tailbone area. If you don't feel a little tailbone nub, the chick is rumpless!
This might be the most interesting hatch i've done so far with all the variables. Naked neck or not, tufted or not, rumpless or not lol. i will definately have to post some pics of the chicks. The tufted reminds me a lot of the Frizzle gene, i wonder what about those two mutations exactly makes them lethal.
 
This might be the most interesting hatch i've done so far with all the variables. Naked neck or not, tufted or not, rumpless or not lol. i will definately have to post some pics of the chicks. The tufted reminds me a lot of the Frizzle gene, i wonder what about those two mutations exactly makes them lethal.

There have been some studies done, but since I just got off a twelve hour night shift, I can't think of where they are (heck, I can't think very well when it comes to anything when I'm tired, haha). I's rather sure there was a rather large scientific study at one of the universities studying the lethal tufting trait and rumplessness, too. I don't recall what about homozygousness for tufting makes a healthy, living chick possible. But there are very rare instances of living homozygous birds. They were only discovered through genetic analysis. So it is possible, but incredibly improbable.
 
There have been some studies done, but since I just got off a twelve hour night shift, I can't think of where they are (heck, I can't think very well when it comes to anything when I'm tired, haha). I's rather sure there was a rather large scientific study at one of the universities studying the lethal tufting trait and rumplessness, too. I don't recall what about homozygousness for tufting makes a healthy, living chick possible. But there are very rare instances of living homozygous birds. They were only discovered through genetic analysis. So it is possible, but incredibly improbable.
Frazzles are the same, there is very rarely a frazzle that will survive and any smooth bird you breed with them will come out frizzle but they have other issues like frazzles feathers being very brittle and they will end up bald usually from the feathers breaking off so not really a very healthy looking bird. I've had several frazzle chicks die in shell, because the person i get local frizzle cochins from has all of their frizzles in on coop and the frizzle rooster gets the frizzle hens alot it seems...so far i have it narrowed down to the cochins that lay non-white eggs being the frazzle culprit so i dont incubate those anymore.
 
No. That is about three (3) days worth.
I'm not really sure what I'm doing here.
My first tapping wasn't deep enough to get the sap. I re-drilled to go deeper into the tree and this is what I have so far.
Nothing wrong. Just need the freeze at night and over 40 during the day. When it's about 20-30 at night (car windows frosted in the morning) and, temps start rising (sun helps too), the gallon milk jugs overflow by late afternoon on most trees. Some trees do, some don't. One year a tree that flows might not the next year. It's a crap shoot with tree selection but the need for the tree to freeze at night is a must.
 
morning everyone...going out to finish off the four coops with sand...been super busy and still tired of moving sand...that stuff is heavy and then in the mud to...wasnt so fun
 

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