Mille Cochin Info

[georgialee]

Ahhh... that makes sense. Thanks for posting that!

 

[ChickcrazyCharlie]

Hi Erin, thanks for the advise. Yes, she is from one of your eggs. And like I told Nadine, I respect your opinion also. All of the 6 chicks are shaping up nicely. I have high hopes for the cockerel. I think he is the only one. That picture was taken last week. I was looking at her this morning and she has change so much already. A lot of white spots coming out everywhere. I will post more pictures soon. Thanks so much.

Charlie

 

[WestKnollAmy]

I know we had this discussion last year about the coloring. I thought we had said it was actually vermillion instead of mahogany. Thank goodness, too. I am not getting mahogany except in a few pullets coming on now.
I swear I will go to the paint store and pick up a card for vermillion!

That way I tack it on my wall in the barn so I can see it often enough to sink into my brain. Although I am still working on pattern, I suppose it is coming close to needing to select for that shade. The details are going to kill me!

Thank you for the link, HorseFeatherz NZ and for the posting on here, Coopa Cabana. I have once again bookmarked it. The computer crashed about a month ago and I lost everything....again. I try to remember to put it on Drivezilla but suppose I am lazy after a while. I have too much stuff, too.

When I lose my way I come back here and you all get me back on track. So nice to have a support group for my habit...addiction...love!

Charlie, you have a lot of nice birds. I know you enjoy going out and loving on them. They are very beautiful and I am sure, sweet!
I would have been shocked if that had been one of mine but stranger things have happened. However, I knew some of mine have a blue look to feathers occasionally. I had another blue Mottled pullet pop out of my Mottled group. NellaBean bought the first one. She posted it on the Cochin thread. She's a beauty so I am keeping this one for my Frizzle group. You may get one occasionally from the trio you got from me but of the almost hundred I have hatched in the last 18 months, I have only had 2 to hatch out.

 

[chrisf]

This is a question for all Millie color experts....first, this is not a Millie Cochin project, I am just "borrowing" the millie color and cochin shape for my Ohiki breeding project.....Here is a Gold Mottled Ohiki rooster with a Millie cochin hen, can I expect millie offspring in the F1 breeding?.................thanks..............................................................................chrisf

 

[thecochincoop]

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more than likely it will be a buff columbian mottled which is what almost all of the mille cochins are. there will be variences in the pattern and since i'm not familliar with the breed of roo I don't really know his genetic background but he has some kind of black based pattern so it should be very similar

 

[Msbear]

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Your particular hen is showing decent speckling on the breast which is where many of us are lacking because of adding buff columbian (which restricts black from the breast) so, I actually think you are ok in that regard. And, "gold mottled" ..Im not familiar with that pattern but if it is the same as blue or black mottled.. just gold based then the mo gene should act as a melanizer enhancing the mottling on the entire bird even the breast.

The best mille birds I got this year were from an Oops to a wheaten rosecomb. The male and female are both showing AWESOME mille pattern.. of course

so.. ya never. I actually think you will get some very nice patterned chicks (if the mottling works the same) just don't understand why you would cross to a cochin type.. for the long tails.. that will set you way back.. don't they have mille fleur leghorns or even game?

Good Luck with whatever you're trying to accomplish

 

[ShysCreations]

So MsBear....as buff columbian restricts black from breast area....does the addition of partridge help spread black more evenly across the bird?
I guess I was hesitant to introduce partridge for fear of more "mossiness" or speckled black in the feather. But am open to others ideas or experiences....

 

[chrisf]

Thank you for the replies.......Here is a better picture of the Rooster....he does have black, white, and gold mottling in the breast area.......I actually work with Ohiki to create new colors, they are basically Cochin looking birds with long tails and unfeathered legs........The Cochin hen I believe came from Shy's Creations......I'm just trying to get a millie Ohiki by "borrowing" the color from the Cochin......thanks for the input and didn't mean to Hijack this thread........................................................................................chrisf

 

[Msbear]

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ya know.. Im experimenting myself. I am using mottled, buff columbian and partridge in my milles. The mottleds are a long road back from black so, can be a bit discouraging and I haven't made much better progress with the buff columbian though my hackle and saddle feathers are just about perfect on some of the birds obviously showing their BC heritage. The partridge is giving me lots of pattern and in many different levels and combos similar to the pullet posted by Charlie. I've been hanging on some genetics forums and everyone says MF can be created on either partridge, wheaten or duckwing. Duckwing have been hard to locate but, I got my eyes peeled. Wheaten based birds I've hatched have been seriously lacking in anything decent color wise. .The wheaten gene really shows off the red but, makes it too dark on the boys giving that mahogany look.. not sure how that gene works .. and the females are washed out but, that may be because I have other genes affecting it as others show wheaten based birds with awesome markings though most are lacking black in the hackle and saddle. My partridge based birds seem to give me the most amount of even mottling though are not forming a distinct chevron with a clear buff base.. Is this something I can breed toward?? dunno. I just threw all of the ingredients together and will keep selecting for proper pattern and, hopefully, I'll get there. I have some BEAUTIFUL mottled boys coming up with lots of red in the saddle and hackle. I plan to put them on these buff columbian based looking girls who have the distinct saddle and hackle chevrons with white tips but buff breasts.

ChrisF, I think that roo is a silver based black mottled whom is leaking gold. Im betting you will get some silver based girls as it is sex linked and you will get nice, buff colored roos. Some girls may look less silver and more gold and some will be more obvious. If you breed them, you will wind up with some silver boys. You'll just have to focus on breeding against it. I had a roo just like him. He came from a BC x Mo but silver columbian was used to improve type a few generations before in the BC's so sometimes it pops back up. I bred from him and got about 50% silver based girls. I culled them and bred back to buff based and still get one every once in a while.. like 5% Im thinking they may pop up here and there for a couple more years but will be totally gone by the time I make any real progress
here he is... very similar

 

[ChickcrazyCharlie]

Ok, finally have some recent pictures uploaded.

Nadine, these are from your eggs marked Xavier. They hatched 2-25-11. I was looking at your website. Wow, lots of beautiful Cochins. I can see where their coloring might come from.

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These two are from Xavier's eggs, hatched on 4-23-11. The one on the feeder in the first picture.

I know the pictures aren't the best, its like they know what I'm doing. And they do their best to hide from me.

Charlie