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Minniechickmama said:
If it is just bulbous and round that isn't so much a concern, many broody hens look that way as do very good layers. If it is because she is lacking in feathers, she may look to have more of her abdomen protruding but not really be outside of the normal range. I would never mess with drawing off fluid if it were ascites. That won't resolve the problem as it is not the 'water' in their abdomen, it is what is causing it to be there. Also, opening the abdomen is always an invitation for infection.
I am sure you are doing as much as you can to figure it all out and take good care of her while trying to figure it all out.
Back to Mareks though, it doesn't present itself exactly the same in every bird, some just become emaciated and lose neurological control of their body. Were you the one that got rid of all your birds due to Mareks before?
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Nope, I didn't get rid of any - since it is on the land/coop/run, didn't seem to be any point to getting rid of the survivors!

I totally agree about not drawing off excess fluid with ascites - it is kind of a western medicine approach where you treat symptoms more than the cause.

Good to think perhaps it is just her shape versus ascites.

Cluckies said:
Oh lala, sounds terrible! I really don't have anything to add to try and help her. I've only dealt with sour crop, impacted crop, and my girl with the reproductive issues. I will say that all my girls weigh different weights. some that do not look big weigh more than girls who look bigger. I have 2 SLW, they look about the same size, but one is way, way heavier than the other. She is even heavier than my BO. But my heaviest bird was my EE Baby, before she passed. so looks can be deceiving for weight in chickens to be sure. Hopefully it is just a strained leg and she'll recover with some rest, that might just be her normal weight and look. My BO has a long body and a more bulbous butt. Hope she gets better soon!
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Thanks, Cluckies. Its amaing how much work chickens can be isn't it? I think back to the first decade or so which was so trouble free for me with chickens. And this fall I've started wondering if I want to keep up this work. But come spring, I'm betting there will be some broody mamas hatching out chicks....
scandiafowl said:
Hey @lalaland It's late but wanted you to know I'm thinking about you and your gals.
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Thanks, Scandia!



Today, after getting the chickens fed and watered, I'm heading to the cities for a day with the grandbaby! Nursing isn't going so easy with my daughter, so she nurses the baby til the baby gets frustrated, supplements with breast milk in a bottle, and then after that pumps - and all that takes about 3x the time a normal feeding would. So add that to diapers and changing soiled clothes, and there isn't time for anything. I get to bottle feed the baby and make food for my daughter and encourage her to sleep. Baby is 2 months old, and a-d-o-r-a-b-l-e!

And today she wants me to help her make something called lactation cookies, full of stuff that is supposed to help increase your milk. That three day trip to illinois at xmas and back really caused exhaustion and sleep problems for her and baby and her milk supply went haywire.
 
" I found this on the Brinsea website. It talks about cooling eggs for a better hatch rate.
Periodic Cooling in Incubation
It is a surprising fact that, although eggs must have very stable temperatures to incubate successfully, periodic cooling can be a good thing and far from harming the development of chicks, can actually lead to more successful hatching.
Bird breeders have known for many decades that eggs can be cooled for limited periods of time during incubation without causing problems but recent research has shown that hatch rates can actually increase significantly as a result of cooling.
Follow the link to read the full research paper on cooling eggs during incubation.
Cooling is an entirely natural process as most birds will get off the nest at least once a day and leave the eggs unheated for a significant time. From Brinsea’s 35 year experience, the best hatch rates are always achieved when the incubator can best mimic the natural nest conditions. For this reason Brinsea
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have incorporated a cooling option in our Advance models of egg incubators for 2012.
Based on the results of the research paper above the user of an Octagon
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40 Advance could expect one additional egg to hatch on average.
Brinsea's cooling feature turns the incubator’s heater and low temperature alarm off for a selectable period but keeps the fan running. After the cooling period is complete the incubator reverts to normal temperature and the alarm is automatically reset. The cooling function is optional and the user can select cooling periods of 60, 120, 180, 240, 300 and 360 minutes with fixed 24 hour intervals. The default setting is that cooling is set to off. This new function applies to the Advance and Advance EX versions of the Mini, Octagon
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20, Octagon
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40, OvaEasy 190, 380 and 580 models.
Brinsea
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have assessed the available research and recommend that smaller poultry, waterfowl and game bird eggs are cooled for 1 hour each day and larger eggs (e.g. duck and goose) are cooled for 2 hours each day from day 7 through to 2 days before they are due to hatch (the same point that automatic turning would normally be turned off). Cooling is not recommended for parrots and birds of prey because the results of cooling for these species haven’t yet been established. This cooling feature is an option which can be enabled to improve your hatch rates.
Further reading on the effects of periodic cooling of incubating eggs can be found here:
Joseph Batty ‘Artificial Incubation and Rearing’ 1994. P103. ‘…there is no doubt that the natural cooling given by the hen when she leaves the nest for feeding does result in very strong chicks’ ‘In the small incubator the cooling given when eggs are being turned or candled should be beneficial’
F. Bogenfurst, Pannon University of agriculture, Hungary. 1997. Experiment showed the increase in hatch rate of geese eggs with periodic cooling. Concluded ‘Incubation results improved with periodic cooling’.
Food and Agriculture Organization of the United Nations, Goose Production by Roger Buckland and Gérard Guy, ‘The eggs should be cooled each day during incubation by opening the doors of the setters for 15 minutes from days 4-27’."


This was posted by a Jersey Giant breeder on their FB page.

Has anyone ever done this?
 

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