Missing/poor quality feathers - why? how to fix?

WingsysRoost

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Hello everyone. I'm seeking some second opinions on some feather issues I've been having in my flock over the past several months. The majority of them haven't really had the best feather quality ever since their adult feathers grew in, so I'm not sure if it's genetic or if they are missing something nutritionally that I can fix. They seem fine otherwise, so I have no idea what is going on here.

I apologize in advance for being unable to provide pictures of said issues. I have pictures, but for some reason the site does not want to let me post them.

All birds are just about fourteen months old currently. They are fed Purina layer pellets (though I am switching to Rolling Acres layer crumble as I have not been entirely satisfied with the Purina pellets and I want to see if they do better with a food switch), as well as a soaked seed mix. They get the occasional treat of soldierfly larvae, egg, yogurt, or fruit/veggie scraps, but not more than once or twice per week at most. They are offered grit and oyster shell free choice. The coop has been deep cleaned within the last few months. I have checked both coop and birds for lice and mites and found nothing. I was feeding them way too many soldierfly larvae over the summer as treats, but I realized what I was doing and stopped.

My first issue is that I have two hens with feather loss on their neck. On both, it appears as a rounded patch of bare skin just below their ear lobes. It almost looks like pecking damage, but it's on two hens that are higher up in the pecking order and it seems too extensive for that.

Second, I have several hens missing feathers on their stomach, kind of over their keel bone. Other than a little bit of dry skin on some of them, the skin looks fine, no visible scabs or irritation.

Third, I have one hen that seems to be getting picked on. The base of her tail is completely bald. She seems to start regrowing feathers, but they are apparently getting picked off as they grow back because a day or so later they are gone. Some of her wing feathers look like straw, with just the middle of the feather left, which would make me think mites or lice or something but I haven't seen any. She is the only one with that particular issue.

Some of them do seem to be molting, as I can see new feathers growing in.

Any ideas would be very appreciated! I've been trying to figure out what is going on for months now and I am completely baffled. Thanks in advance!
 
Can you bump up their protein? Switch to all flock and still offer oyster shell and grit.

What breed are they?

How big is their run?

That is definitely a possibility. I'll have to see if I can find a store in my area that carries it.

They're all Barred Rocks, hatchery birds.

The run and coop is roughly 15' by 8', including space under the coop to give them extra room. They free range all day from dawn to dusk and have plenty of space in which to do so.

The issue of them picking on each other started before they started free ranging full time, but the other issues began afterward.

Thank you for your input!
 
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Is this daily?

Layer feed is already minimal protein so if it's being diluted by other feeds on a routine basis they could be deficient.

I use 18-20% all-flock feed for my birds, but if you can't find an all-flock you can use grower or even starter feed.

Also, have you checked them for mites or lice? https://www.backyardchickens.com/ar...-fleas-dealing-with-external-parasites.74599/

Yes, the seed mix is fed daily. I definitely would have assumed the seeds were throwing their protein off, except I've been having issues for far longer than I've been feeding the seed mix. They've been having feather issues basically since they grew their adult feathers in, which was well before I started adding the seeds. In fact, I would say I've actually seen some health improvements ever since I started feeding them the seed mix. It's also a limited amount spread between twelve birds, and they get their regular feed plus whatever they can find while free-ranging for most of the day.

I have checked both the chickens and the coop for mites and lice several times. I haven't seen anything. They could still be there, but I would expect to see other signs of an infestation on those birds, even if I wasn't seeing the lice or mites themselves.

My current plan is to switch to all-flock feed to see if that makes a difference, along with continuing to check regularly for mites and lice. If it is a protein deficiency, how long should I expect it to take before I see improvements?

Thanks for your input!
 
If it is a protein deficiency, how long should I expect it to take before I see improvements?

I don't know.

If they're currently molting and growing new feathers I'd *guess* that you'd see the improvement in the new feather growth. I don't know if an improved diet would create any improvement until the next molt if they're not currently growing feathers.
 
Agree, feathers grow in during/ after a molt, so it may take time for new feathers to arrive. And diet matters! A 20% protein diet, with fresh mill dates, and minimal extras that dilute the balance, is best.
Are you looking for mites at night with a flashlight? During the daytime they can be harder to find, particularly roost mites.
Mary
 
That makes sense! I believe they should be approaching a molt soon, if they aren't molting already, so I guess I will see.

Yes, I've gone into the coop at night with a light and checked them and the coop/roosts, as well as checking them in the daytime during their regular health checks.

Thanks again!
 

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