mixing pheasants

[Boggy Bottom Bantams]

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That is true and corect on the splash, its a mutation not a hybrid

 

[lexgold]

Sorry to jump in on your post and ask my own question but I am curious about 'splashes'. How is a peach golden created?

If a peach splash is a mutation, then how do the peach variety end up just white and peach?

 

[J3172]

the same way all the other mutations did, by selective breeding.

 

[Boggy Bottom Bantams]

Yep, mutations are just a process of select breeding til a breeder gets what he want out of them, then breeds to that color. 2 new peafowl mutations have also just recently come about. None are crosses to anything, just one of those things that come about threw years and years of select breeding

 

[TV]

Actually that isn't true. A mutation is something that occurs suddenly and unexpected on it's own. Like when the first yellow golden appeared. It was then bred back to siblings or parent to attempt to fix the strain. If something is intentionally bred for, it is a new strain or variation but not a mutation.

 

[TV]

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That is true and corect on the splash, its a mutation not a hybrid

I have a question that has been bugging me and maybe everyone here can chime in and discuss. This is about 2 different Genus of pheasant:Ruffed Pheasants (genus Chrysolophus) and Peafowl (genus Pavo). Each has 2 species: Golden Peasant (C. pictus), and Lady Amherst Pheasant (C. amherstiae) and then:Indian (Blue) Peafowl (P. cristatus) andGreen Peafowl (P. muticus). One (Pavo) it is perfectly acceptible to hybridize i.e. Spauldings but the other is usually vehemently decried (often by breeders raising both Genus) So what's the deal?

 

[GypsyChic]

I've actually seen this cross of Lady Am X Red Gold, and must say they are phenominal looking birds. Theres a breeder located not far from me who's worked on this program for quite some time, "perfecting" his stock and culling ruthlessly. I, personally

LIKE the look and coloration I've seen from his program. That's why I asked this questions about the breeding. It would (Im sure) be a 3-4yr program to sell birds as pure Red Amherst, correct??

Either way, at this point I like what I've seen and will try to post a few pics of his stock over the weekend, if anyone is interested?? As far as what TV said, I'd be interested in learning more as well.

Misty (Back in the hen house...heehee, that's better than the DAWG HOUSE!!)

 

[J3172]

Nope they can never be pure again, so no they wont be pure red amherst because they are not pure amherst to begin with.

 

[maloga]

Those who tend to dislike hybrids do so, because they consider it a loss to the already narrow lines of genetics available in this country. My view is somewhat different. I say never hybridize just to find out; seeing that it has been done before. Now consider my previous statement. I did not say do not hybridize at all. If you wish to hybridize have a plan. What are you going to do with hybrids? Are you setting up a development program? Such a program is not as hard as it sounds, nor does it needs be large. Even if your goal is to just have a bird that is fair to look upon; that in itself is a goal. If you have a plan, and know what goals are to be attained then by all means proceed. Be prepared for things to not go according to script though. (Setbacks actually. I know this well from my current area of research.) All of our domesticated livestock has come from the hard work of people who had ideas and pursued them regardless of the obstacles. Everything in life revolves around what we will give up to attain that which we want. This is no different.

 

[GypsyChic]

" All of our domesticated livestock has come from the hard work of people who had ideas and pursued them regardless of the obstacles. Everything in life revolves around what we will give up to attain that which we want. This is no different."

You are correct, however I still like his stock, and they were purebred to purebred to achieve the results. We're talking several generations of breeding to get where he is. I'm just curious is all, don't plant to "rush out & buy", just like the look/style of the birds, males are very handsome and hens have been consistant. I appreciate all the input and helpful info. Thanks!