mixing pheasants

[Tony K T]

Ditto on both you guys comments.Now we need to spread the word and stop everyone from crossing pheasants.I've been preaching this for years with no one listening.Well now there are 3 of us,who else is going to join in?
In N.H.,Tony.

 

[Boggy Bottom Bantams]

I'm definitely in there, one of the earlier post! Like you Tony, every time I mention it, you get yelled at for being a jerk or , some thing along that line, folks need to realise WE ARE HERE TO PROTECT THESE. they are wild birds in need of our care, not experiments. If it happens by accident so be it, but these like they said arent chickens. They are made the way they are supposed to be, and need us to preserve that, not play with it just to see what we get. Goldens and amherst are the most popular and not overly critical in population, but they are gorgeous in their natural state so why mess with it? I know many dont see it that way, but experiments are best left to domestic fowl, not wild strains of game birds in my opinion....

 

[DMFarm]

I agree too Tony I think they should be kept pure I have seen alot of amherst and golden crosses and some of the hens you can't tell they are crosses and they are being sold as pure amherst or golden. I think there are some out there that can't tell golden and amherst hens apart and get them mixed up. I had a friend that is a well know breeder of pheasant that bought a amherst hen 2 years ago to get some different blood she look like a amherst hen but the offspring didn't look like pure amherst all the offspring and the hen was put down because he want sell anything that he thanks or know is not pure.
Doug

 

[JJMR794]

Tony I"m in! Have been for quite a while! I have seen it posted before and it makes sense to me at least... If you absolutely have to play mad scientist with cross breeding do it with different ring neck colors. Not sure if its even a good idea there, but at least it wouldnt be making the rare breed gene pools muddy... Personally I beleive god knows alot more than I do so I will just try to manage whats available in its natural form...

 

[Tony K T]

That's 5,how many more?
In N.H.,Tony.

 

[solarquail]

Quote:
me too!

 

[DaKid]

I also agree too - I think they should be kept pure as I would like to do like I am starting to do with my pure chicken breeds and also my pure Turkeys Breeds and soon to be doing with my Pheasants went I start raise them, but I do like the looks of the Red/golden Amherst Pheasant for my own personal showing on my mini farm , not saying I would sell them ,but for my own personal pleasure , just like my mix batch chicken farm mutts which I use only for egg laying.

So you can count me in also as a newB just getting into breeding exotic birds as Pheasants , Quail -also some Ducks and Chickens

- Pure should be pure - and keep the natural stock where it should be.


But I have to say no matter how much you preach there are always someone or some people are going to do it (mix breeding and try to sell the offspring as pure breed that just how some are...............there looking for the cash flow and nothing more ) . .........just hopefully they won’t be sell they experiments and mix breeds of pheasant or other birds just like some do with there ducks and chickens an sell them as pure breeds which trhey will .

It’s breeders / owner / raisers like ya’ll that stated above and trying to keep the breeds going TRUE & STRONG
The way I see it if you get 3 out of 8 people to do the right think- then ur preaching the right song , some just don’t care what happens or even if there children or grandchild see the true animals or birds , that we have see and keep alive .


So again count me in .

So I guess I'm 6

Alan

 

[Dogfish]

My father in law raised a number of pheasants over the years. He said that the Reeves were particularly violent to all other breeds on the pen. One Reeves rooster killed 20+ RN roosters and hens in a single evenings. He was the only bird left.

 

[DaKid]

My father in law raised a number of pheasants over the years. He said that the Reeves were particularly violent to all other breeds on the pen. One Reeves rooster killed 20+ RN roosters and hens in a single evenings. He was the only bird left.

and that’s why one of the reasons that Tony and the other's say don't mix breeds of pheasant , and also introduce non true breed blood lines into the world of the true breed of pheasants​

 

[Boggy Bottom Bantams]

that's right DaKid,
One problem is identity too especially on hens. Like they said, for newer breeders, it's hard to tell some apart on the hens, like the goldens and amherts for one. Or mikados, elliots edawrds stuff like that just in their natural state, so If you were to corss them, then true pure identity would be hard for anyone to tell. So it's best tojust enjoy them as pures to be safe. Pheasants are some of the worlds most beautiful birds, just the way they are. No need to try to "create" stuff out of them, they are already perfect!!
Then like you said, the probelm lies with the handful of dishonest sellers trying to pull a fast one on a new hobbiest and sell them some thing that isnt pure. Saw a thread on here a couple years back with a guy wanting to buy what the seller was calling "Japanesse" amherst (which were some kind of mutt looked like from the pics) Want to say they were like $1000 or so???
Said the were different looking because they were a Japanesse strain?? Never heard of such.... Looked like a dark throat /amherst cross to me