Mixing things with corid

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  1. goose chick

    goose chick Out Of The Brooder

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    Hi! It has been so long since I have posted anything on BYC. Well the chicken math finally hit me a couple of weeks ago. I have a friend who I got 7 young chickens from ranging from 3weeks to 3 months. I had to treat them for 7days with duramycin due to sneezing and wheezing in a couple. Then I noticed blood in several of their poop. So I ran and got the Corid and started it yesterday. Thanks so much to all who have posted info regarding this stuff. My friend is giving her flock Sulmet instead because that is what her vet told her to do. The vet also told her she could mix the vitamins in with it & she told me to mix with the corid. I have been searching all these threads for hours & have read differen't opinions. I know that I read on here before the reason why you cant do that but I can't find the thread. UGH can someone please help me with this? Thanks so much :)
     
  2. write2caroline

    write2caroline Chillin' With My Peeps

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    It could be that there is something that would block the corrid from working. Can you call a pharmacy or a vet and ask? I would also repost this question under the emergency tab. There might also be a label on the medication that can tell you more.

    Caroline
     
  3. goose chick

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    Thanks so much I can't find anything on the label. My friends vet said it's ok?? I just know I read the reason why you shouldn't but I can't find it now. So many threads about Corid and Cocci.I hope i can figure out how to repost. Still learning. Thanks again ;)
     
  4. Fred's Hens

    Fred's Hens Chicken Obsessed Premium Member

    When medicating for coccidiosis with Corid, the drug is intended to block thiamine uptake in the gut. This starves cocci and allows the bird to recover from the over load.

    I refuse to provide extra vitamins or anything of the kind because I fear defeating the Corid's work. Here I am trying to starve the cocci and if I feed something with high doses of thiamine, I'm feeding the cocci instead of starving it.

    Anyhow, those are my thoughts. I've successfully won the cocci fight a few times with Corid. I use the 20% powder and mix one and a half teaspoons per gallon. No other drinking water is supplied as I want the birds drinking only the Corid water. I also dampen their feed with Corid water to help insure its uptake.

    For severe cases, I've used an eye dropper with a high concentrate of 10X of the Corid water to get some fluid and med down the chick's throat while I still can. I've seen the chicks bounce back in 18 hours and look no worse for the wear. I continue with the Corid water for 8 days and keep on checking.

    Cleanliness is horribly important. Clean all equipment and bedding.
     
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  5. goose chick

    goose chick Out Of The Brooder

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    Yes this makes total sense I wonder why her vet is saying it is ok. I won't give any until treatment is over. Did you also retreat with Corid in a few weeks as others have done? Thanks
     
  6. Fred's Hens

    Fred's Hens Chicken Obsessed Premium Member

    I can only speculate on the vet's advice. First, I wasn't present and do not have any way of knowing what was said. However, many vets simply aren't up to speed on poultry. Avian specialists are few and far between.

    I only re-treat if I am uncertain. I know that sounds foggy, but I watch the birds and rely on their immune system overcoming the overload. They must. Cocci is everywhere and avoiding it is impossible as the wild birds carry it about. Cleaning the pen and all equipment is a great help. I also like to feed a few portions of bacteria rich yogurt to re-supple the gut with germs.

    It's the cocci over load that kills. I may indeed re-treat with a solution much reduced, for an additional 5 days if I am concerned. My preference is that the birds' own immune systems kick in.
     
  7. sourland

    sourland Broody Magician Premium Member

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    Great advice from Fred's Hens!
     
  8. liz9910

    liz9910 Overrun With Chickens

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  9. casportpony

    casportpony Team Tube Feeding Captain & Poop Inspector General Premium Member Project Manager

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    FDA recommendations:
    http://www.accessdata.fda.gov/scripts/animaldrugsatfda/details.cfm?dn=013-149
    "Chickens
    Indications: For the treatment of coccidiosis.
    Amount: Administer at the 0.012 percent level in drinking water as soon as coccidiosis is diagnosed and continue for 3 to 5 days (in severe outbreaks, give amprolium at the 0.024 percent level); continue with 0.006 percent amprolium-medicated water for an additional 1 to 2 weeks."


    And this link has these instructions:
    http://www.drugs.com/vet/amprol-9-6-solution-can.html
    "Poultry - as Soon As Caecal Coccidiosis Is Diagnosed, Give 0.024% Amprolium In The Drinking Water For 5 To 7 Days. Continue The Treatment With 0.006% Amprolium Medicated Water For An Additional One To Two Weeks. No Other Source Of Drinking Water Should Be Available To The Birds During This Time."

    The severe outbreak dose (.024%) for Corid Powder is 1.5 teaspoons
    The severe outbreak dose (.024%) for Corid liquid is 2 teaspoon.

    The moderate outbreak dose (.012%) for Corid Powder is 3/4 teaspoon.
    The moderate outbreak dose (.012%) for Corid liquid is 1 teaspoon.

    The .006% dose for Corid Powder is 1/3 teaspoon.
    The .006% dose for Corid liquid is 1/2 teaspoon.

    More info here:
    https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/818879/updated-corid-and-amprol-amprolium-dosing

    -Kathy
     
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  10. goose chick

    goose chick Out Of The Brooder

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    Thanks so much!!
     

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