More about the 4 year old beaten to death in my hometown :(

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Thanks rebelcowboy, well said.

We naturally want to protect the defenseless in our society but yet sometimes we quickly race to judgment, destroying someone else's life along the way. Here is an article that appeared today...this man lost 30 years of his life: In Prison for 30 Years. I don't know the details of that case, but I feel fairly confident that the prosecutor felt that he achieved a just sentence. The prosecutor had *all* the evidence before him during the investigation and trial (except for the DNA results), he had his detectives that worked on it, probably forensic labs, witnesses, etc.,. He made a case and convinced a jury of this man's guilt. But, the man was innocent.

How can we, then, judge this woman when all we know is what is written in the news....this day and time news is written to sell, not necessarily to be accurate.

The blood of this child and millions of others will not go unanswered.

No matter what facts are known or not known, I *know* that justice will be served.

Ed

I hear what you are saying and in a lot of situations would agree, however as a MOTHER I most certainly know exactly what I WOULD DO. There are just some things that are so animalistic and instinctual it is undeniable. Not to say that every mother is like this obviously. I just cannot fathom how people do and don't do things so plainly wrong. Perhaps stealing I wouldn't judge, or even certain acts of violence when I do not know the true circumstances but a child, who was really only a baby (most parents would agree 4 still qualifies) was killed. Not by accident but BEATEN to death by one creature I won't even consider a person while his mother turned a blind eye for FOUR DAYS! Where is the gray zone in this? What could we possibly not understand or have missed? Perhaps one or both of the criminals had aweful childhoods in which some of the very same abuse happened. I would have laid down my life to save them then but once you perpetuate the cycle there is no more sympathy. Not everyone who goes through aweful things comes out to pass it on. As a very young child I had a rough start. Meth addict mom, born addicted to the stuff, abused neglected, sexually abused. I had two concussions, a broken arm and phenonia all by the time I was 2 1/2. I believe my mother was no longer a "person" I would never let that continue. We all have choice, except for the innocent.
 
If these chicldren were repeatedly removed from the home, then this woman was not a mother as most of us define the word. Therefor, there is no way we can ever understand how she could stand by and let this happen.

All we can do now is pray that justice is served and that her surviving child receives the love and support all children deserve.
 
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I completely agree Debi and I found that a cast iron skillet to the side of the face was a great way out! After enough swings you just have to decide to fight back or die period. My son was the driving force behind my fighting back...if they can hit me, they can hit my child. Not having it.
 
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Thanks rebelcowboy, well said.

We naturally want to protect the defenseless in our society but yet sometimes we quickly race to judgment, destroying someone else's life along the way. Here is an article that appeared today...this man lost 30 years of his life: In Prison for 30 Years. I don't know the details of that case, but I feel fairly confident that the prosecutor felt that he achieved a just sentence. The prosecutor had *all* the evidence before him during the investigation and trial (except for the DNA results), he had his detectives that worked on it, probably forensic labs, witnesses, etc.,. He made a case and convinced a jury of this man's guilt. But, the man was innocent.

How can we, then, judge this woman when all we know is what is written in the news....this day and time news is written to sell, not necessarily to be accurate.

The blood of this child and millions of others will not go unanswered.

No matter what facts are known or not known, I *know* that justice will be served.

Ed

I hear what you are saying and in a lot of situations would agree, however as a MOTHER I most certainly know exactly what I WOULD DO. There are just some things that are so animalistic and instinctual it is undeniable. Not to say that every mother is like this obviously. I just cannot fathom how people do and don't do things so plainly wrong. Perhaps stealing I wouldn't judge, or even certain acts of violence when I do not know the true circumstances but a child, who was really only a baby (most parents would agree 4 still qualifies) was killed. Not by accident but BEATEN to death by one creature I won't even consider a person while his mother turned a blind eye for FOUR DAYS! Where is the gray zone in this? What could we possibly not understand or have missed? Perhaps one or both of the criminals had aweful childhoods in which some of the very same abuse happened. I would have laid down my life to save them then but once you perpetuate the cycle there is no more sympathy. Not everyone who goes through aweful things comes out to pass it on. As a very young child I had a rough start. Meth addict mom, born addicted to the stuff, abused neglected, sexually abused. I had two concussions, a broken arm and phenonia all by the time I was 2 1/2. I believe my mother was no longer a "person" I would never let that continue. We all have choice, except for the innocent.

I truly believe in my heart, there is nothing more protective than a mother of her young. This was not a mother, this was just an incubator . . .I also truly believe that as a mother of 6 and grandmother of 12, when I say I KNOW what I would do, I know what I would DO. The man would have to kill me first to get to one of my kid's. this belief was instilled me from birth, by my mother, about protecting your young. It actually is probably genetic, because my entire family is this way about their kids.
 
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I completely agree Debi and I found that a cast iron skillet to the side of the face was a great way out! After enough swings you just have to decide to fight back or die period. My son was the driving force behind my fighting back...if they can hit me, they can hit my child. Not having it.

Ceta, you have some scary mojo
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Remind me to stay on your good side
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My ex told me that if I ever defended myself or left he would kill me and my family. He did a lot of heinous things to me. I was scared to death to defend myself because any time I tried he would hurt me so bad I wished I had never done anything. So, having been in that situation, I do know what I did, I waited till he left to go get high or whatever he was doing and grabbed my kids and a few items and ran and never looked back.
 
alright I'm putting this out here, I'm sure that I will get fierce judgement here, but I'm going to say it anyway, I can face whatever you guys say....

For a short time, less then a year, I was married previously only a few people know.

I got pregnant right away, I thought I was inlove and married him when I was 8 months pregnant. 2 weeks after we got married he started to beat me, bad. He broke my arm 2 weeks before I had our son. I delivered with a broken arm. I did not want to leave him, I had no car, no family help, and 2 children from a previous marriage, I lied and said I fell.

The beating continued choking head butting. I made the mistake to argue with him in front of my 4 y/o son, he was down choking me, and my son jumped on him, and slammed him down.

Did I leave, nope. I vowed never to argue talk back or do anything to make him hit me or draw attention to it in front of my kids. I was also afraid I would lose my children, because my 1st husband was a cop, and the jerk had me so delusioned, thinking I had nothing, was nothing, and my kids were going to disappear.


So I stayed. When he would get mad at me and the kids were there and awake, I would do whatever he said, and then he would come up and bite me as hard as he could in the back or the shoulder and leave marks that way.

Well one night he almost killed me, because I wanted to watch tv in my bedroom. He beat me terribly, stopped himself, and said, "One day you will be dead, this is not good, I'm going to end up killing you." then he left that night.

He did not come back the next day, I got a ride and went to my mothers house. I was so beat up she knew right away.
See I was finally scared, and what scared me was the fact that if I died, he would get our son, then beat him or kill him.

I was always so ashamed for not leaving, but more ashamed when he threw my 4 y/o and I still didn't leave. And ashamed that he beat me so bad when I was pregnant that anything could have happend to my baby.

I'm not justifing what she did, by any means at all, but I will say an abused woman can be severly mentally ill from it. I don't understand why she did not seek medical care, was he there the whole time? I don't know.

But I know that I still have haunted dreams, and when I see his truck in town, I lose it and start shaking all over. I know have terrible anxiety attacks as well.

I never want to be that helpless to myself or my children again.
 
oh and he lost all custody and rights to his son, and my husband now (5 years married) adopted him. He knows no other daddy
 
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You have absolutely nothing to be ashamed about. My DD lived with an abusive man for 14 years, he never hit the kids, but there was times when he made them stand in the corner for a long long time. She was so beat down and so sure she could not support herself, she stayed. I think this is why I am so unforgiving and firm in my belief about these abusive parents. She finally got enough, when he was found having an affair with his SIL and kicked him out. NOW, the SIL is finding out what DD put up with all these years, and I couldn't be happier for her. DD went through a really rough year, but she is now standing on her own two feet, and so proud of herself. Men/women can be brutal when it comes to power and control. They find out your vulnerable spots and wear you down. . .makes me sick to think of the society we are living in.
 

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