More reason to produce your own food.

[1acrefarm]

Kinnip that is a very logical concern. I would not let a chicken that fell off a truck near my own if I could help it. Broiler chickens are packed pretty tight. I don't know about other farms but the one my cousin used to work on would go through up to 5 flocks before a litter change.

 

[Miltonchix]

I have absolutely REFUSED to buy ANY Tyson products since the mid 90's.
They are continually skirting the law and have been buying political favors for many years.
According to Tyson it was a "rogue" plant manager that purchased a large bus to pick up ILLEGALS at the Mexican border to perform near slave labor in their Arkansas plants. Basically threw the guy under the bus when they got caught. But the ones REALLY in charge at Tyson seem to never know anything. hmmmmmmmmm........
And this all really got going full bore when who was Governor of Arkansas..........???? Seems like a bunch of people (so called big shots anyway) in Arkansas have memory problems. MAYBE ITS THE ANTIBIOTICS IN THE CHICKEN!

 

[DoDa]

It is so great to read all these posts and know that the numbers of folks who think about where their food is coming from is growing. I hope all of you are keeping up on NAIS news. It will potentially affect all of us. I really believe that small farms/family farms and homesteaders are the answer but we all don't have the political voice of agribusiness. My husband and I "cull ruthlessly" to prevent sickness/disease. Not to say we aren't at risk. We all are, but I firmly believe we have the motivation (no one is going to buy chickens from us if we don't maintain good practices) and the opportunity to prevent or stop sickness or disease in its tracks because of the size of our operation. We are a family farm. We have more than dollars invested in our place. It is our life, our future, our home. Tyson can't say that, and in the end, a large number of their employees (even owners) can shrug their shoulders at any issues they have/cause in the food supply, chalk it up to a bad day at "work" and go home. Why I brought up NAIS is it's foolish that the government thinks they can mandate more responsible tracking of the health of animals nation wide than what family farms already do. Once upon a time in America we had community. People understood that what they do affects others. If your kid was naughty, even a neighbor or family member would probably scold if a parent wasn't handy. Now people would be afraid to get involved. It's that "the system will take care of it" attitude that's gotten into our food supply. The system does NOT take care of us. We take care of us.

 

[greyfields]

Two things spring to mind:

1) Even organic rules for chickens do not apply until the 2nd day of life. So, they must be fed and managed "from the first day" of life organically, not prior to incubation.

2) I was told that using a coccdiostat qualifies as an antibiotic for labeling use; so I cannot imagine they were not using a coccidiostat in their broiler feed. Have they found a way around that one too?

 

[Cetawin]

Typical. Sad but to be expected with these big companies.

They just have to stretch the guidelines and run on the edge of breaking them or they are not happily making money off of their actions.

 

[kinnip]

Good point Doda. I can't help but think NAIS is just another way to push small farms out in favour of the industrial machine. It's not as if the government is protecting us now with the many laws they have in place. That's why I have livestock.

 

[Colored Egg Farmer]

I can tell you one thing the food police were trying to put our family farm out of busness for years. The finally did but they didn't exactly suceed. Where back. They were on our eggs like mad and as soon as we got someone elses eggs they left and havent even checked us.

 

[yotetrapper]

<<It is like the oil industry in bed with the government>>

Then why is the US army not to mention all of congress paying the same price for gas that we are?

 

[kstaven]

Quote:
Easy way around the second one and it was done years ago and still is used in some locations. Arsenicals

Roxarsone
3- Nitro- r- hydroxybenzenearsonic acid



Description
　 Pale to brownish yellow powder, odorless Very slightly soluble in cold water, freely soluble in 30 part of boiling water, freely soluble in methanol, soluble in acetic acid and 10% Sod hydroxide solution.

Specification
　 Available in two presentations:
Technical grade: 98.5% min
Premixture: 11.2%

Indication
　 For stimulating growth and increasing feed efficiency in pigs and poultry. Also improves the effect of anticoccidiostat for poultry.

Chicken & Turkeys 　 50gms Roxarsone Technical
Grade per I000 kg of feed.
　

 

[Beekissed]

Quote:
You're not too far off the mark. Call it conspiracy theory, call it whatever you want.....look toward the drug companies and who stands to profit on BOTH ends of the cycle. The drug companies sell the drugs to the commercial grower, they cause illness in the human consumer, resulting in more drug sales for the drug companies. The cancer industry alone is a billion dollar industry! Why would anyone stop THAT money train? They aren't going to.