muddy run issues

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I am in the planning stages for a coop to be built in early fall. The most problematic part seems to be the run as I am anticipating the area I've got staked out to turn quickly to mud. It's sited on blueberry soil so drainage is not a problem, as it's all sand one foot down, but at some point it's going to go the way of all runs. Other options for run expansion/rotation nearby are a gravelly area surrounding the house and forest floor.

As I have no topsoil to speak of I wonder if it makes sense to delay the project until I can bring in some loam and seed it with cover crop, sufficiently in advance of putting chickens on the ground.

What are people doing to combat the mud?
 
Read this. The best time to fix a muddy run is when you build it.

Pat’s Big Ol' Mud Page (fixing muddy runs):
https://www.backyardchickens.com/web/viewblog.php?id=1642-fix-a-muddy-run

There are two basic ideas, keep water out to start with and get water out after it gets in.

With the ground being sand you are better off than any other soil type because sand drains so well. But if water stands there you still have a problem. You don’t want your coop or run where water drains to it, you want water to drain from it. The water has to have a place to drain to even if the soil is sand. Otherwise you have a sand-filled bathtub.

The problem is that chickens poop. That poop gets in the soil and rots. So far no big deal. What causes it to rot is that organisms eat it, just like composting. If it is dry enough those organisms are aerobic (oxygen breathing). Those don’t smell. But if it is wet the organisms are anaerobic and those can turn it into a smelly mess pretty quickly. It needs to stay dry or dry out quickly enough that the organisms stay aerobic. It only takes two or three days for the anaerobic to start to take over and the smell to start.

One thing Pat does not mention is chicken density. The smaller the coop and run the less space for them to spread the poop. The bigger you can make the coop and run the more space they have to spread the poop. That can help a lot. A poop board in the coop can help keep the poop build-up down in there to help prevent this problem. If poop gets thick enough it can hold moisture and cause this problem. Instead of looking at how tiny can I build, look at it as how can I provide enough space for the number of chickens I want, then build it a little bigger than that. Extra space helps in a lot of ways, not just in keeping the smell down.

Pat sort of refers to this but in most runs the chickens will destroy practically all vegetation. Again it’s a matter of chicken density but also climate, seasons, and type of vegetation. Chickens eat a lot of green stuff and even scratch out the roots and eat those unless they have a lot of room. Unless you have a huge amount of room per chicken (most people don’t have room and if you cover it, it gets extremely expensive) don’t worry at all about planting anything in the run for them. They will destroy it. Your run will be bare. You can build a tall frame, cover it with wire, and grow stuff they can eat once it grows tall enough without them destroying it, but that is limited space. Count on your run being bare of vegetation.

Good luck! Now is the time to look at this.
 
I planned for mud avoidance before I started building, because we're on pure clay here and walking across the lawn a few too many times in wet weather will tear it up. The run frame is built on 7" blocks to provide a tub for the deep litter, and the litter itself was put in in layers. From top to bottom, it goes like this:

Shredded leaves
Shredded small branches
Layer of sawn larger branches
Mesh
Clay

It's still pretty new so I can't say much about how well it's working. We had a long run of dry weather and then two solid days of rain, so the top layer got a bit claggy while leaving the coarser material beneath bone dry. I've been rooting about with a cultivator to even out the litter. The chickens were supposed to do this, but there's too much fine heavy material at the top right now. They don't so much scratch at the ground as wipe their feet roughly on it, and it's not enough to break up the top layer once it settles.
 
Thanks for the input. I think what I'm going to do is rely on chipped wood to keep the yard from becoming a mud muddle-or at least to keep the birds' feet out of the muck. I've got no grass to speak of-all berry field and forest-so a yard "rotation" is sort of pointless.

At this juncture, I'm actually weighing advisability of chickens (vs. rabbits), as the investment for a coop and yard-to do it right-seems substantial for a small family's needs.
 

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