Muscovies in US - REGULATION CHANGES OPEN FOR COMMENTS - 10/1 update

[sandspoultry]

The new regulation already says that. The Muscovies can be raised for meat and eggs by permit. I hope not but it looks like the small backyard flock is still in trouble. I wonder at what point or number they go from pets to meat?

Sharon

 

[Iheart'scovies]

"George stated that backyard/private ownership of muscovies for meat and/or eggs is reasonable to add to the regulation, but not pet ownership. I assume this would also allow for breeding of muscovies wherever local laws allow it."

Why not pet ownership? Why is that so unreasonable? Well, I guess any 'pet' is also being used to produce eggs as long as you get 1 + 1.

I feel really sad about the feral muscovies, though, sounds like they are really going to be after them now. I still hate that even though I get the arguments that people have made here about it. I still just like them and hate the idea of them being rounded up and slaughtered

Time to duck-nap, everybody!!

I hope they can add in that feral populations can still be relocated to private land if there is a willing recipient, but I guess that is unlikely.

 

[Duck_feeder]

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I'm hearing this all second hand but I think the point of modifying the regulation for backyard flocks is to remove any uncertainty on what is and is not allowed. They might possibly also waive the need to get a permit for personal use.

Why not pet ownership? Why is that so unreasonable?

Irresponsible pet owners that dumped their ducks at ponds are a huge contributor to the current mess we're in.​

 

[muscovychef]

here is a reply and a little hope we need to band together on this



Hi there, Thanks for sending me this. I called and talked to George Allen, Division of Migratory Birds this morning. He is the main one is charge of this regulation. He said he had No idea, that exhibition type Muscovies existed. He was willing to listen to what I had to say. I had many questions as well. He explained how this is a treaty with three countries participating. Sounds like the Asian Carp dilemma in the great lakes. This regulation goes into effect the end of March, so time is a issue to get a force established. I will do my best, and put together some educational material on Muscovies. We need to make them realize domestic and Wild Muscovies are quite different. Just as all domesticated ducks derived from the wild mallard. I plan to try to get the APA, SPPA, ALBC, and who ever I can get to give our push to get our Muscovies exempt from this regulation. Pass the word on, and I will be in touch letting you know the progress. I hope all is well! Jim

 

[Kelsykin]

Honestly if this regulation was focused on the Feral and wild populations I could understand, but it isn't. If the government actually went after the SOBs that were dumping the Muscovies in the first place and enforce the current animal cruelity laws then this regulation would not be needed. Also the areas that have feral and wild Muscovies I hope are ready for the bite in the backside when the flies, and other insects are amassing in those areas.

 

[Slinkytoys]

Looks like the hatcheries are taking them off their websites.
Slinky

 

[crazy_4_chickens]

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[Parrotchick]

Before muscovies came under the jurisdiction of the FWS, localities could treat them however they deemed necessary. In Florida, they even had some protection under anti-cruelty laws. But it was the local/state agencies that asked FWS for assistance to deal with the problems, not the other way around. Here's a bit more info from another thread.

https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=305027

Two of my Pekins I rescued were Easter ducklings that somebody released in their local river. One of my parrots came from somebody who was going to let it out the window for being too noisy. I would certainly like to find out more about things to be done to make this kind of occurance so much less common, whether it be fining guilty people or not enabling people to impulsively buy Easter ducklings when they have no ability or intention of keeping them. That, I'm sure, is a very difficult kind of thing to enforce. A totally differnent issue FWS is looking at is the problem of people releasing their overgrown pet anacondas in Florida. That is a pretty well publicised issue, so responsible reptile owners will certainly know about any comment periods. It would be nice to have a general law making it illegal to "dump"animals period, but of course life is more complicated than that.

 

[swheat]

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Which hatcheries are taking them off ?

 

[muscovychef]

I spoke with both strombergs and merts , nither knew they are spreading the word. after 31 orders will be refunded. I betting as of now you cant get ducklings , eggs maybe adults ..........