Muscovy color & pattern mapping - calling all scobie breeders for input

[yo burrill]

OMG Just saw a pic the other day of a blue fawn scovy that you can see both colors on!!! I gotta go find it again and see if I can post it here...

Is this what you are trying to do sort of????

 

[Miss Lydia]

3 colors including white.

 

[dougbaja]

Ian,

I was in Australia last year. Went from Taz>Melbourne>Adelaide(Kangaroo Island)>Sydney>Brisbane>Cairns>Darwin. HIghlight was perhaps the most southern trail in the Daintree. A bird guide had recommended it to me as one that had been planted with Cassowary-attracting plants. Got there near dusk and a pitta was hopping about the picnic tables. Wow! Whilst getting video I look up and a bloody great cassowary is 10 meters away coming down a grassy hill right at me! Worries mate! Mindful that they have killed humans I got out of the way and started getting video. It turned out to, sure enough, be checking out the fruit trees planted for it. It started walking away and I couldn't hold it by trying to mimic a female call (I think, at least that's what somebody else taught me with another cassowary that was a male that got it to stop).

Sepia could be bronze? Interesting. You never hear of either in the USA. If anyone has them both they could breed them together and see what they get. If wildtype pops up then they are different genes. Wildtype did not pop up when they bred chocolate muscovy X buff mallard, brownish species-hybrids showed up, thus buff in mallard is homologous to chocolate in muscovy i.e. they are the same gene. Same thing with ash-red in pigeons and rosy in ringneck doves. Course you always have to be on the lookout for multiple mutants in domestic stock that could be hidden because people usually had to do a lot of inbreeding to isolate the trait of interest.

Fume and tortora? Google says tortora is a region in Italy?

Yeah pied is often used, piebald is an older term that is falling out of use. Many people see some white in an animal and call them pied for lack of a better word if nothing else. I doubt many have ever heard of "duclair pied" but they know "pied" and they might have heard pied is a muscovy mutant. Holderread's book specifically mentions that most birds with white in them have one white gene and are not duclair pied (duclair is a French word meaning lightly colored IIRC).

So your duclair piebalds don't give any hints of actually having one white gene? When bred together you don't get any solids or whites? When you breed one white gene birds together do you get 1/4 white, 2/4 haphazard white, 1/4 solid?

 

[Chaneys Ranch]

3 colors including white.

My daughters 4 around late july. they have evolved a lot, and have similar red coloring around the eyes and the "knob" above the beak/nostrils. We were told they are Muscovy. Forgive my ignorance, i don't raise ducks myself, my DD started this spring. The pictures dont do justice, All 4 have a lovely blue green hue to their colored feathers.

 

[Miss Lydia]

My daughters 4 around late july. they have evolved a lot, and have similar red coloring around the eyes and the "knob" above the beak/nostrils. We were told they are Muscovy. Forgive my ignorance, i don't raise ducks myself, my DD started this spring. The pictures dont do justice, All 4 have a lovely blue green hue to their colored feathers.

Beautiful Muscovies

 

[Chaneys Ranch]

Beautiful Muscovies

Thank you! here is a couple quick shots of them today


Huey and Donald above...



Stanley the nosy one hehe!!



and Sqauwk!

Stanley is the only Drake....

 

[Miss Lydia]

Thank you! here is a couple quick shots of them today


Huey and Donald above...



Stanley the nosy one hehe!!



and Sqauwk!

Stanley is the only Drake....

They sure are pretty, I know you'll enjoy them, Scovies have so much personality.

 

[EdenCamp]

Had a picture sent to me and this may be what I'm looking for as to calico coloring - see what ya'll think...
On the far left and top, check it out. The blue and brown along with the white are clearer. FYI these are all drakes.

 

[Miss Lydia]

Had a picture sent to me and this may be what I'm looking for as to calico coloring - see what ya'll think...
On the far left and top, check it out. The blue and brown along with the white are clearer. FYI these are all drakes.

I see what your saying but I have never heard of a calico Muscovy.

 

[yo burrill]

It looks like a dark Lavender Pied to me.