My African geese (2 ganders) are sick what do I need?

[livininbrazil]

UTAH
VERY VERY GOOD INFO! Having been in the veterinary field for alot of years I can 100% confirm that ANY vet can do fecal analysis AND draw blood AND do a scraping of the lesions! Harry Rooster, if your ganders are hard to handle, I'd just focus on catching one & getting it to the vet. Let them do the "handling" they're better able to do it & there's power in numbers! I do so hope you can get the help you need. ...I'm praying for your boys!

Not necessarily so...There´s a vet in my town that is frightened of any birds!

The others back off, thinking they know nothing (probably right, too!), so i´m my own vet, and learn a lot from these threads.

 

[livininbrazil]

I am fortunate to live in the northern mountains of Utah where worms are not as big a problem as they are in hot/humid climates. As such, I do not regularly worm any of my animals (horses, dogs, cats, geese, ducks) as part of my program. I do, however, get random fecal testing done and worm when needed. I also test new animals that come onto our property. And I definitely keep a close eye on everyone's poop, eating habits, and behavior. All of my animals are seen regularly by vets (it helps that my avian/small animal vet is a good friend and my horse vet lives 10 minutes away). If anything is "off" no matter how subtle, I start running through my checklist of diagnostics and get calls out to my vets or experienced owner friends.

Wow J, what a lovely situation to be in. How reassuring. That´s also, of course, how you know such a lot, learning from them and passing it on to us lot! Thanks for that.

 

[Iain Utah]

Thanks. Unfortunately, bad things still happen to my animals despite my best efforts and access to vets. In fact, I have a sick white African goose right now suffering from reproductive issues and there's not much my vet can do at the moment to help her.

 

[livininbrazil]

Thanks. Unfortunately, bad things still happen to my animals despite my best efforts and access to vets. In fact, I have a sick white African goose right now suffering from reproductive issues and there's not much my vet can do at the moment to help her.

Oh No! Not one of the ones you wanted to breed from in the pens?

 

[Iain Utah]

No.... worse. It is my favorite gander's mate. The one that I could not separate to put into the breeding pen. She has had her last two eggs break inside of her. She rebounded quickly from it a few days ago and is attempting to pull through again today.

 

[Starfire669]

Harry, I have a degree from Texas A&M in microbiology. From what I can tell your gander has a nastily infection. The yellow on his face looks fungal, but I can't be sure without looking under a microscope, as there are a couple bacterial infections that can look like that .The postures under his skin are most likely pus. The wet weather is a fungus prefect living condition. If I'm right, and that's fungal infection, normal antibiotics won't help and some will actually make the infection worse. Fungal infections are extremely hard to cure, their cells chemical and biological pathways are very similar to ours, meaning what kills fungal cells is also poison to our bodies. I would most definitely rush your gander to a vet and have them test those growths ASAP! If he has fungal infection he needs treatment as soon as possible.

 

[Starfire669]

Crap, didn't mean to submit that just yet. If it is a fungal infection and it hasn't gone systemic yet you can use topical fungicides to treat him. If the fungal infection has reached his bloodstream, a real concern with how close to his eye those lesions are, then you may have to put him down.

I will hope and pray that I am wrong, and that is NOT a fungal infection. Best of luck Harry

 

[servpolice]

Iain Nooooooooo! Why the white african ! So not cool poor goose! Id say it was hurt alot for goose with that condition

 

[livininbrazil]

No.... worse. It is my favorite gander's mate. The one that I could not separate to put into the breeding pen. She has had her last two eggs break inside of her. She rebounded quickly from it a few days ago and is attempting to pull through again today.

Poor babe. and poor gander. Poor you, of course, but more them!

Oh, if only they had a button to push to stop them making eggs!!!

 

[Harry Rooster]

Harry, I have a degree from Texas A&M in microbiology. From what I can tell your gander has a nastily infection. The yellow on his face looks fungal, but I can't be sure without looking under a microscope, as there are a couple bacterial infections that can look like that .The postures under his skin are most likely pus. The wet weather is a fungus prefect living condition. If I'm right, and that's fungal infection, normal antibiotics won't help and some will actually make the infection worse. Fungal infections are extremely hard to cure, their cells chemical and biological pathways are very similar to ours, meaning what kills fungal cells is also poison to our bodies. I would most definitely rush your gander to a vet and have them test those growths ASAP! If he has fungal infection he needs treatment as soon as possible.

Well, all hope is lost now. I talked with Iain Utah yesterday for a while, who helped me find an avian vet several miles away. I was going to attempt to take them there today and see what I could get done or find out that I could do to help them, but no one will see them. They all say that although they do see parrots exotic birds and animals, they do not see geese or poultry that they are classified as a livestock animal and that the federal govt. will not allow them to treat them or give them antibiotics because they are classified as that, and even though we are not going to eat them and they do not produce eggs, that the govt. doesn't care about what your intentions are with them, it is still a rule that everyone must follow and that the govt. can take a vet's license for giving these animals medications. Also that they do not have the equipment to test them as in blood test fecal tests ect. that the equipment that they use for cats and dogs would not read the results properly and that the results wouldn't mean anything since they would not be reading it properly and they wouldn't know what to do with the results of the test done on the equipment they use for cats and dogs ect. So bottom line is, no one will even see these geese or help me in anyway. They suggested that I try a farm animal or large animal vet that does farm calls ect since these are classified as such. I told them that I've already tried that and gotten the same response. So, I'm on my own, and from the looks of it, if the Tetracycline in the water doesn't work, then they are lost. I'm so very sick!!! We all so love these two ganders. They have been a part of our lives for many years. They protect the chickens, let us know when anything is around, they are our geese patrol, we call them. We have had them for many many years. They follow each other around everywhere. We love them so. I am so very sad sad sad! Don't know what to do except cry cry cry!!!