My Black Australorp is sneezing!

[maidenwolfx80]

Arguments at the very least are or debates have you, are not something I employ on a consistant basis. It seems as though you may enjoy the debate whether or not it makes any sense. I have dealt with people as such, the argument gets over their head and they lose footing and begin repeating themselves or tactics of using big words in hopes to confuse the other side.
I am not saying that study is bad, but when one begins with an arguement you cant expect everyone to just say "oh yes, yes of course youre right, why should I even think differently" I am not that person. I know the benefits of what I have used and is passed on thru family and towns people.
the whole point ,if you will, has nothing to do with you accepting what another says and changing what you do but instead being alittle open minded and realize that there are other ways to do things. Instead of trying to prove someone wrong all the time to "try" to make yourself look intelligent just accept the fact that there are alot of other opinions out there as well and what may work for some isnt the way one person may choose to treat/act. There are so many different techniques and they all have face value. So no matter how long one person has studdied, tested, wrote papers on, etc it may not be the answer to all. For one person with a chicken with a cold the ACV unfiltered may work wonders and for the next that person may stomp right back to that store grumbling and groaning about it being a waste of money. to each their own, but there are far too many people in this world who try to push off "the right way" onto people that sometimes no one knows which direction to go.
It is great that you also have hand-me-down knowledge, then you should know how important that is. Fine you are a science geek , awesome that is a good thing. I just choose a diifferent path. Were science is great, dont get me wrong, I just try to keep things simple so I have more time to enjoy other things in life. And science may be your "other thing" Cool, but science has lots of room for error and tons of room for improvement too. Not everyone is right but everyone has potential and everyone is right in one way or another. But no one is right when they try to knock someone down for trying to help another.

 

[my sunwolf]

Arguments at the very least are or debates have you, are not something I employ on a consistant basis. It seems as though you may enjoy the debate whether or not it makes any sense. I have dealt with people as such, the argument gets over their head and they lose footing and begin repeating themselves or tactics of using big words in hopes to confuse the other side.
I am not saying that study is bad, but when one begins with an arguement you cant expect everyone to just say "oh yes, yes of course youre right, why should I even think differently" I am not that person. I know the benefits of what I have used and is passed on thru family and towns people.
the whole point ,if you will, has nothing to do with you accepting what another says and changing what you do but instead being alittle open minded and realize that there are other ways to do things. Instead of trying to prove someone wrong all the time to "try" to make yourself look intelligent just accept the fact that there are alot of other opinions out there as well and what may work for some isnt the way one person may choose to treat/act. There are so many different techniques and they all have face value. So no matter how long one person has studdied, tested, wrote papers on, etc it may not be the answer to all. For one person with a chicken with a cold the ACV unfiltered may work wonders and for the next that person may stomp right back to that store grumbling and groaning about it being a waste of money. to each their own, but there are far too many people in this world who try to push off "the right way" onto people that sometimes no one knows which direction to go.
It is great that you also have hand-me-down knowledge, then you should know how important that is. Fine you are a science geek , awesome that is a good thing. I just choose a diifferent path. Were science is great, dont get me wrong, I just try to keep things simple so I have more time to enjoy other things in life. And science may be your "other thing" Cool, but science has lots of room for error and tons of room for improvement too. Not everyone is right but everyone has potential and everyone is right in one way or another. But no one is right when they try to knock someone down for trying to help another.

Yes. This.

 

[maidenwolfx80]

Yes. This.

 

[KayTee]

I too have a hen that sneezes, gone on for months. Used antibiotics in water seem to help a little. She now rests at night. None of the other chickens have it. She also has dirty butt which I cleaned with warm soapy water. She is a Golden Plumb rescue chicken so may have other issues as many of the have had. I have had many runts from the Golden Plumb barn next door to me.
I add Apple Cider Vinager in their water all year round. It keeps the water from going bad plus helps with their digestion as I understand it.

I also have a sneezing hen (sometimes her right eye sinus puffs up, but not every day), and last week she had a bad case of diarrhea, and I had to clean her up. Now a second bird has started to sneeze. I tried Citricidal in their food, but they're no better (but no worse - still eating well, laying well, and escaping at every opportunity!) My vet has prescribed a 10% amoxicillin powder (10g amoxicillin plus 90g of bulking powder), and told me to use 2g of powder per litre of water. I have 3 birds, and even with this as their only water source they don't drink more than 300 - 400 ml a day between them, so not even half a litre. (They free range in the garden and it's very wet at the moment so they're getting water from the grass etc. they eat.) Therefore they're getting less than 0.1g of actual amoxicillin between them per day - surely that can't be enough? I thought about mixing the 2g in a small amount of water and adding it to something I know they'll completely eat (a bowl of rice, porridge etc), but I'm scared of overdosing them - does anyone have any opinions?

 

[my sunwolf]

KayTee: I would stick with what the vet prescribed, but that's because I know very little about medicating.

Wanted to mention to everyone that I've been doing the apple cider vinegar for a few days now and I haven't heard a sneeze since I put it in the water!!

 

[maidenwolfx80]

KayTee: I would stick with what the vet prescribed, but that's because I know very little about medicating.

Wanted to mention to everyone that I've been doing the apple cider vinegar for a few days now and I haven't heard a sneeze since I put it in the water!!

Oh that is wonderful. I use it in the water once a week at least.

 

[cowcreekgeek]

Arguments at the very least are or debates have you, are not something I employ on a consistant basis. It seems as though you may enjoy the debate whether or not it makes any sense. I have dealt with people as such, the argument gets over their head and they lose footing and begin repeating themselves or tactics of using big words in hopes to confuse the other side.
I am not saying that study is bad, but when one begins with an arguement you cant expect everyone to just say "oh yes, yes of course youre right, why should I even think differently" I am not that person. I know the benefits of what I have used and is passed on thru family and towns people.
the whole point ,if you will, has nothing to do with you accepting what another says and changing what you do but instead being alittle open minded and realize that there are other ways to do things. Instead of trying to prove someone wrong all the time to "try" to make yourself look intelligent just accept the fact that there are alot of other opinions out there as well and what may work for some isnt the way one person may choose to treat/act. There are so many different techniques and they all have face value. So no matter how long one person has studdied, tested, wrote papers on, etc it may not be the answer to all. For one person with a chicken with a cold the ACV unfiltered may work wonders and for the next that person may stomp right back to that store grumbling and groaning about it being a waste of money. to each their own, but there are far too many people in this world who try to push off "the right way" onto people that sometimes no one knows which direction to go.
It is great that you also have hand-me-down knowledge, then you should know how important that is. Fine you are a science geek , awesome that is a good thing. I just choose a diifferent path. Were science is great, dont get me wrong, I just try to keep things simple so I have more time to enjoy other things in life. And science may be your "other thing" Cool, but science has lots of room for error and tons of room for improvement too. Not everyone is right but everyone has potential and everyone is right in one way or another. But no one is right when they try to knock someone down for trying to help another.

I challenge you to revisit our exchange in this thread. Reread your own words, and then my own. Any of 'em, for that matter, from any thread on BYC. Or, anywhere else on the 'net ...

And, then? You show me where I've tried to knock you, or anybody else, down, for any reason, let alone for tryin' to help others.

Yes, I enjoy debates, and healthy argument. But, when I find myself in over my head? I simply say so. I've no need to "try" to make myself look smart -- I know my potential, both for being ridiculously smart and tremendously stupid. I'm not the most effective writer, but I stand by my words ... won't so much as edit them, save for clarification or correcting my grammer/spelling, and never w/o disclosing the fact that I have. So, your implication that I'm tryin' to confuse any issue, most especially by choosing my words so as to intentionally complicate my responses, is ... well ... utter nonsense.

Hopefully, should you take my challenge, you'll see that it is your posts that have been peppered w/ not-so-passive aggression; not mine. Which is OK, if that's the way you wanna be ... just can't imagine why anybody'd wish to.

 

[cowcreekgeek]

I also have a sneezing hen (sometimes her right eye sinus puffs up, but not every day), and last week she had a bad case of diarrhea, and I had to clean her up. Now a second bird has started to sneeze. I tried Citricidal in their food, but they're no better (but no worse - still eating well, laying well, and escaping at every opportunity!) My vet has prescribed a 10% amoxicillin powder (10g amoxicillin plus 90g of bulking powder), and told me to use 2g of powder per litre of water. I have 3 birds, and even with this as their only water source they don't drink more than 300 - 400 ml a day between them, so not even half a litre. (They free range in the garden and it's very wet at the moment so they're getting water from the grass etc. they eat.) Therefore they're getting less than 0.1g of actual amoxicillin between them per day - surely that can't be enough? I thought about mixing the 2g in a small amount of water and adding it to something I know they'll completely eat (a bowl of rice, porridge etc), but I'm scared of overdosing them - does anyone have any opinions?

One of the advantages of havin' a vet involved is that you've paid for the right to have 'em explain themselves (and, I hope you'll share all that they do, as it sure comes in handy for others ~'-)

Below is the abstract from clinical study, which indicates that a dosage of 10 mg/kg administered orally at 24 hour intervals should be effective in treating "a variety of systemic infections in poultry" and ... no doubt ... they're not gonna wanna drink it, cause it tastes terrible.

Note: Mom warns folks to avoid offering any dairy products while administering antibiotics, as this may render them ineffective, but I'm not sure whether this is true or not, in regard to the use of Amoxicillin.

Amoxicillin was given to two groups of eight chickens at a dose of 10 mg/kg of
body weight, intravenously (i.V.) or orally. Plasma concentration was monitored
serially for 24 h after each administration. Concentrations of amoxicillin were
measured using high-performance liquid chromatography. Pharmacokinetic variables
were calculated, using a two-compartment open model. The elimination half-life,
and the mean residence time for plasma were 8.17 ±0.31 and 10.46 ±0.51 h,
respectively, after i.v. administration and 9.16 ±0.60 and 12.26 ±0.81 h,
respectively, after oral administration. After single oral administration, amoxicillin
was rapidly absorbed, with Tmax, of 1.00 ± 0.06 h. Maximum plasma concentration
was 160.40 ± 4.67 μg/ml and mean amoxicillin concentrations > 15 μg/ml persisted
for 24 h. Oral bioavailability of amoxicillin was found to be 63.00 ± 4.58%. The
results indicate that a dosage of 10 mg/kg administered orally at 24 h intervals should
be effective in treating a variety of systemic infections in poultry.

 

[maidenwolfx80]

I challenge you to revisit our exchange in this thread. Reread your own words, and then my own. Any of 'em, for that matter, from any thread on BYC. Or, anywhere else on the 'net ...

And, then? You show me where I've tried to knock you, or anybody else, down, for any reason, let alone for tryin' to help others.

Yes, I enjoy debates, and healthy argument. But, when I find myself in over my head? I simply say so. I've no need to "try" to make myself look smart -- I know my potential, both for being ridiculously smart and tremendously stupid. I'm not the most effective writer, but I stand by my words ... won't so much as edit them, save for clarification or correcting my grammer/spelling, and never w/o disclosing the fact that I have. So, your implication that I'm tryin' to confuse any issue, most especially by choosing my words so as to intentionally complicate my responses, is ... well ... utter nonsense.

Hopefully, should you take my challenge, you'll see that it is your posts that have been peppered w/ not-so-passive aggression; not mine. Which is OK, if that's the way you wanna be ... just can't imagine why anybody'd wish to.

LOL oh goodness. I cant imagine you being any older than oh 20 something, if it is or is not the case you certainly look it rigt now. You are getting defensive like I just took away your grilled cheese sandwhich or something. I know what I say on my posts, I am the one who wrote them of course. I do not know why I need to reread abunch of threads and such, not sure what that is supposed to prove??? The knocking down comment is towards the fact that once I stated something about the mother you had to bust up bigger than life and stomp on everything. To me that is childish. All this person wanted was opinions on how to help a sick chicken for crying out loud. You are getting flustered because someone is not backing down and is actually proving a point and your childish behaviors are making it worse. If my posts look aggressive, maybe it is you who should re-read your own posts.

 

[speckledhen]

Allow me to interrupt your argument to address the sneezing issue the OP asked about, please.


Sneezing in absence of any other symptoms is usually just caused by something environmental. Don't go to the worst case scenario right off the bat. I have one hen who is six years old and has sneezed every day for the last five years. She has small nares and I suspect malformed sinuses as her head seems too small for her body (hatchery Brahma). She is not ill, but she is very sensitive to every little thing.

Check ammonia levels in the bedding at their level-you may not think it smells, but get down at hen height, stir it around and take a big whiff. Check for dusty feed, mold growing in the coop, etc, before you jump to any worse conclusion about illness in a bird whose only symptom is sneezing. Even new plywood and caulk can cause irritation and sneezing fits.