We use vintage galvanized tubs as a brooder when we need something for just a few chicks. We use pine shavings and a 12" stone paver to elevate the waterer and food containers. We use a large galvanized horse trough if we are raising alot of chicks at once. Again we use pine shavings and elevate the feeders and waterers on the same pavers. As they grow in our large brooder, we add another paver on top of the first ones for the cleanliness of both the brooder and the chicks. We still need to replace the shavings every so often so it doesnt stink of poo in the brooders.