My Crocus-Fowl Landrace project moving forward

[Sir Sacabambaspis]

I'm hoping to bring these birds to life as a real landrace alongside my books!

 

[MysteryChicken]

That's a gorgeous egg!!!

Thanks. It's from an Easter Egger pullet.

 

[Sir Sacabambaspis]

So I have this one chick I thought was a wheaten hen... But now that I've made the discovery a few weeks ago that I have DB in my flock (specifically Butterscotch who I presume is the mother) and possibly Saffron as well since his mother might have it. Which means this presumed pullet may in fact be a cockerel. However that my friends isn't even the craziest part! Look closely at these photos of this mystery chick... I kept thinking "hey that looks like barring" followed by "there's no way, non of my current birds are barred" and yet none the less... I see what looks like the weirdest barring ever.

THAT LOOKS SO MUCH LIKE BARRING

 

[Sir Sacabambaspis]

I'm also really unsure of whether this mystery bird is a pullet or roo, I'll show some birds from the same hatch

Bingus is 100% a roo

This is the only one that's most likely a pullet

And this is the best photo I could get of this mystery chick

 

[MysteryChicken]

So I have this one chick I thought was a wheaten hen... But now that I've made the discovery a few weeks ago that I have DB in my flock (specifically Butterscotch who I presume is the mother) and possibly Saffron as well since his mother might have it. Which means this presumed pullet may in fact be a cockerel. However that my friends isn't even the craziest part! Look closely at these photos of this mystery chick... I kept thinking "hey that looks like barring" followed by "there's no way, non of my current birds are barred" and yet none the less... I see what looks like the weirdest barring ever. View attachment 4309475View attachment 4309476View attachment 4309477View attachment 4309478View attachment 4309479
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If the chick was yellow as a chick, it's more then likely Wheaten based.

You can have both Wheaten, & Db in the same bird(s). But this combination(If Columbian involved) often leads to extension of the Buff, or Red, or Silver color into the tail.

 

[Sir Sacabambaspis]

If the chick was yellow as a chick, it's more then likely Wheaten based.

You can have both Wheaten, & Db in the same bird(s). But this combination often leads to extension of the Buff, or Red, or Silver color into the tail.

True, but it does look like the Piemonte (pure for DB) chicks who were where the gene arrived from like 5 generations ago, but my assumption was those had Wheaten bases. There is also the possibility of the Colombian gene, but it's far less likely. I'm guessing you're probably right and it's a wheaten base since the dad and the hen I think is the mom both have a copy of it.

The mom could also be another hen of mine who is from my current understanding Extended black/Wheaten Pg/pg Co/co and Ml/ml and possibly DB from her dad. Which means this chick could have any of those.

But idk what the barring-like feathers are from

 

[MysteryChicken]

True, but it does look like the Piemonte (pure for DB) chicks who were where the gene arrived from like 5 generations ago, but my assumption was those had Wheaten bases. There is also the possibility of the Colombian gene, but it's far less likely. I'm guessing you're probably right and it's a wheaten base since the dad and the hen I think is the mom both have a copy of it.

The mom could also be another hen of mine who is from my current understanding Extended black/Wheaten Pg/pg Co/co and Ml/ml and possibly DB from her dad. Which means this chick could have any of those.

But idk what the barring-like feathers are from

She looks more like the Wheaten X Columbian colored birds I'd get through my first breeding projects.
The parents are more then likely Barred, or the father. Can't get a Barred bird without the gene being present.
This is Pea, who is Wheaten, Columbia, & Barred.

 

[NatJ]

I kept thinking "hey that looks like barring" followed by "there's no way, non of my current birds are barred" and yet none the less... I see what looks like the weirdest barring ever....
THAT LOOKS SO MUCH LIKE BARRING

I agree. That does look like barring. I can't be sure whether it IS barring, but it definitely LOOKS like barring.

But idk what the barring-like feathers are from

I don't know where the barring came from, but I do know how to be sure of what it is: test-mate the bird to see what you get in the chicks. Mating with a black chicken will give some chicks that show barring quite clearly, if the barring gene is present. (Black chicks make it really easy to see a light headspot at hatch, and the white bars show up nicely on the black feathers as the chick grows.)

Since you said you have no barred birds, is there any chance that someone else's rooster came visiting? (Or one of your hens wandered away to visit another rooster?) Or did you get a hen recently, so she might still have sperm stored from a previous mating?

Or do you have any all-white chickens? Sometimes they can have barring without being noticed (white barring on a white chicken is not exactly obvious.)