My dog just went crazy, what should I do?

[Brindlebtch]

Mr. Peepers, your beta b1tch was looking to increase her pack status because the alpha was at a disadvatage. IF your alpha had been gone for a day for spaying or whatnot they will smell different and also smell wounded. Whatever the circumstances the beta saw an opening and took it. That would not be a surprise to me with my breed. It was not unpredictable, its typical pack behavior. Some breeds are more prone to this type of behavior than others but it can show up in almost any breed.

When I bring my dogs back from the vet everybody is crated until the dog that has been gone has been in the house for a couple of hours. Then they are allowed to socialize with supervision until everything is back to normal. If anybody looks the least bit snipey they are told leave it and crated again

I certainly don't want chickNjake or anybody else to be injured or, heaven forbid, killed. I do understand the threat of a large aggressive dog attacking someone.

But ultimately it is not our call, it is chickNjake's, and he has opted not to put the dog down right now. I'm sure jake is weighing his options, but it is his dog and I will try to give constructive advice for as long as he decides to keep the dog. Saying 'kill it kill it' is not helpful since jake has made it clear that is not an option at the moment.

I'm sorry your were surprized and unprepared for your beta dog reacting as she did, but ultimately it was probably your fault for not knowing the hazards and handling the situation incorrectly.

Did you put your beta dog down right away after this event?

 

[Brindlebtch]

A long time ago we had a dog named Burbus. He was an Am Staff and in his prime he weighed 70 lbs. Big dog for me.

One night I came home late from class and he was curled up on my spot on the sofa. I wanted to sit down and so told him to move and he displayed all of his considerable dentition and growled at me and basically said "Make me, b1tch". Displacing an animal and then taking it's space is a dominant action.

Well I thought HOLY KER-RAP! I retreated, which made me very angry, and found my horse crop and gave him a good one. He baled over the arm of the sofa and we had a nasty scene all over the house. Ugly ugly ugly. I finally cornered him in the kitchen and got him to down and then stood over him to reinforce my status.

This did surprise me at the time. But after reflecting on it I figured he was a young male in his prime who figured he could make a move for alpha and win. Had I let him win I would have had a bit more of a problem, but, as it was, I started him on a dominance program a la John Rogerson and everything worked out just fine. He lived to 14 yrs and I loved him dearly.

 

[Le Canard de Barbarie]

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Too close to animal abuse for me.

 

[redhen]

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Too close to animal abuse for me.

Not for me..
She knows what shes doing.

 

[Wolf-Kim]

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Too close to animal abuse for me.

Not for me..
She knows what shes doing.

If my dogs did that, they'd be lucky it was the horse crop and not the gun!

Sometimes I find it strange that something as basic as a horse crop, with is a short handled flat crop, designed to make more noise than pain, would be considered animal cruelty. Had this been an argument between two dogs, it would have involved teeth and blood.

"Le Cenard de Barbarie" what would have you done if it was you in the situation? And why?

-Kim

 

[Le Canard de Barbarie]

Even the Iditarod will disqualify you for hitting a dog. I'm also quite certain the ASPCA would take a dim view of beating a dog with a riding crop.

 

[Wolf-Kim]

So, what would have you done, if it had been your dog?

 

[Le Canard de Barbarie]

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I hope you realize that you have flagged yourself as an individual who will beat an animal as a form of discipline.

I'm done with this.

 

[Wolf-Kim]

I assure you, if I ever have to pull my gun in defense of myself or family, it would not be to "beat" the dog. The dog would be killed.

Sorry if you took offense to me asking "what would you have done, had you been the one to been seriously threatened by a predator in your own home."

 

[TACEYPERKINS]

chickNjake ~I am sorry you are at this cross road. This is a hard one to fix. You seem to be a very smart person. Unfortunatly, this situation is over your head. I would suggest to try to go to the breeder or a rescue to get help from someone that knows how to deal with this breed. You need a professional trainer/behaviorist. The situation has gone too far for an unexperienced person to deal with on their own. I think you have been given a lot of sound advice on this topic BUT, in all actuallity you are not capable of performing what NEEDS to happen at this point. She needs to be properly trained, THEN YOU AND THE REST OF YOUR FAMILY ALSO NEED TO BE PROPERLY TRAINED. SO YOU DO NOT HAVE A REPEAT OF THE SAME SITUATION. You also need to beware that this dog is capable of physically hurting ANYONE in your family. She just doesn't know her place and will test that theory to the fullest extent till she is satisfied. Meaning she will eventually harm/attack/bite anyone that gets in her way of doing what SHE wants! I speak from experience. A simple fix like a collar, of any kind, is not an option for you at this point. It is obvious she doen't mind you. What makes you think she will mind you with a collar on!!!
This dog is fixable. It will take alot of time and effort on your whole familys part to show her the way. But it will all have to start in a professionals hands. I wouldnt suggest putting her down unless you absolutly cant work with her everyday. And it will be day in and day out. You will have to play catch up with all the time you missed out on. If you cant commit to give her that amount of attention, then you should either give her to someone who knows the breed and can retrain her, or just put her down. Because she will eventally harm you if left unattended. I hope I have helped you. This is a hard thing to go through. But, just start making calls, talking to people, you will eventually figure out what you should do. Good luck, stay safe~ Tacey