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Really? A friendly warning to ANYONE that supplements their chick's diet with unmedicated feeds (sometimes to the extreme %s) and you need to take it up a notch and get your claws out?
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Nope, I took offense to your patent falsehood when you said that supplementing the medicated feed with yeast as I do was equivalent to not giving medicated feed at all, this is absolutely a false claim you made... If you want to spew lies and falsehoods and pretend they are fact, be prepared to back them up, or I will call you out for the lies... I backed up my claims with facts and data, as well as recommend dosing, what do you have to back up your hyperbole claims that supplementing with yeast as I recommenced is the same as not using medicated feed at all?

I have clearly shown with facts, that supplementing with the amount of yeast I recommend has a near insignificant effect on dosing overall, and is FAR from your false claims of being equal to not using medicated feed...

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Who said the recommended dosage was adequate in any exposure? Did you even read my post? I clearly showed two different exposure rates and two different dosage rates for each exposure level... I posted the high and low exposure recommended dosage from the manufacture to show that there is in fact different dosages for different levels of exposure, and that the 0.0125% dosage in medicated feed was just a median dosage, not the end all of dosing... And yes I have extra amprolium on hand, as even the amount in medicated food is not enough in extreme exposure cases so if symptoms appear I can treat the water as well...

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Yeah, that is why I use medicated feed, and that is why I dose my at recommend dosage levels based on my exposure risk..

Either way it doesn't change the fact that you were spewing patently false hyperbole as fact all the while failing to back up your claims that using 0.0121% medicated feed is the same as not using medicated feed, with anything more than more empty hyperbole...
 
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Wow, seriously MeepBeep?

Studies (done on chickens) are a dime a dozen online, but regardless, it's actual hands on experience with cocci and Peachicks that counts. Most serious and/or professional Peafowl breeders that have thousands and thousands of dollars wrapped up in rare colors/patterns of Peafowl feed their Peachicks medicated feed for several months, some even up to 6 months or longer. That alone speaks volumes to me as to how susceptible Peachicks are to cocci overloads. I don't need to see any study on chickens for that to ring true to me, and I certainly don't need to copy and paste anything to back it up.

If you scroll back to before you blew up and read your original post, you did not even state how much yeast you were adding to your feed. Just because you supplement a minimal % doesn't mean that another person reading your post won't use a lot more... under the false pretenses that their Peachicks are still ingesting the amount of amprolium they need to be "adequately protected". Whether you choose to believe it or not, my comment was not directed at you (I did not even quote your post), what I typed was meant as just a FRIENDLY warning to (as I said) ANYONE that supplements medicated feed and dilutes the level of medication their Peachicks are getting. If that offended you, that's on you but it was not my intent to offend anyone.

We are a friendly crew here on the Peafowl forum... we share experiences, advise and help each other as well as others when we can. We don't attack. Maybe you should step away from your computer if you feel the need to be so harsh and rude to people that genuinely want to help others.

Blast back with whatever you feel the need to blast back with, but I'm done with this. And just a little FYI, attacking and arguing is against BYC rules.
 
I feed mine medicated chick feed mixed with brewers yeast to bump the protein and vitamins closer to 'game bird' levels... 1 cup brewers yeast to 5 lbs medicated chick starter, I get the 22oz KAL brand yeast flakes from Amazon, as it's half the price of what I can get it for locally...

1. I feed medicated turkey starter,aka ( at least at the elevator) gamebird starter, its 28% and if that's too high it can be mixed with medicated chick starter. Also the elevator here sells brewers yeast for about $15/50#.
The "medication" in medicated starter is not an antibiotic, so there are no worries about antibiotic resistance using it.

I belong to the Michigan thread and we've been shut down for nasty, so cool it you guys or I'll begin to think i'm jinxed.
 
If you scroll back to before you blew up and read your original post, you did not even state how much yeast you were adding to your feed. Just because you supplement a minimal % doesn't mean that another person reading your post won't use a lot more...

LOL, maybe it's you that should follow your own advice and 'scroll back up' and read my initial post, as it's clear you are now making stuff up...
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Yea everyone be nice or i will photo bomb your post so no body reads them.
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We all have different methods and even a new comer will learn everyone is going to post what works for them, different areas will have different problems so lets work together here and if you disagree then remember to post IMO before you make claims cause things are different from different situation and places.



Now back to the topic at hand
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1. I feed medicated turkey starter,aka ( at least at the elevator) gamebird starter, its 28% and if that's too high it can be mixed with medicated chick starter.

I would do the same, but there is no local feed store that stocks/sells medicated turkey or gamebird feed within an hours drive of me, and I'm not going to drive even that far as the gas cost will negate any savings... Thus I mix my own, as it's practical...
 
Yea everyone be nice or i will photo bomb your post so no body reads them.
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We all have different methods and even a new comer will learn everyone is going to post what works for them, different areas will have different problems so lets work together here and if you disagree then remember to post IMO before you make claims cause things are different from different situation and places.



Now back to the topic at hand
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Absolutely correct! Everyone on here has different opinions and different methods that work for them. Nobody should be posting anything and saying it is the "Gospel" and the only correct way of doing things. I've had other members tell me that I cannot possibly do something and have it work, yet it is something I do all the time and it works for me. We should all remember to use IMO's liberally. Peafowl are a complicated bird and just when you think you have it all figured out you will likely get yourself spanked by them. What works this year may not work at all next year even though as far as you can tell nothing has changed. I've had Peas for going on 20 years and every year is a little different with different problems.
 

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