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Oh she reallyl is feeling bad. Well the applesauce, you can stop with that now. She's cleansed. So I'd keep with the yogurt, vitamins, water.
I'm concerned that she has no interest in drinking on her own. Because she's getting less, offer her electrolytes - in fact use that in the water you dribble to her.
And no egg yolk - usually they love it. Is there anything you can get her to eat at all?
No she refuses to eat anything. Even to the point of fighing me to get out of my hands and ignorning me completely
Because of the bad smell of the droppings, ideally it would be best to have a fecal bacteria check done at a vet - and I'd recommend checking both negative AND positive bacteria if this is a possibility (the vet visit) as gram positive bacteria are often associated with very bad smells.
The diarrhea looks like straight diarrhea, not mucous, not bloody. It's a shame you can't get her to try the oatmeal. She definitely is not doing well and it's very frustrating.
Is her crop of normal size? (trying to catch up with the info here).
It feels as though it is a walnut size and it moves around when you push it
Were you able to tell if there was a broken egg inside? By the way, to tell (and this is not the funnest advice to give) you would put a glove on, put olive oil or KY jelly on the finger (we used that at the vet clinic)), and use your index finger on your right hand. You will insert into the vent gently, never pushing against resistance. I would suggest going in at the top of the vent along the top wall. You'll use your opposite hand along the abdomen. that way if there's a (whole) egg, you will feel it between your index and your hand. You can also do the same but feel for egg shell fragments.
I have not done this, I'll go to Walmart in the am and pick up some plastic gloves and thank you for the detailed explanation as to how to go about this, I have no idea
If hypothetically you ever find egg shell in the vent, remove what you can gently with your finger, and then use *cool* water (not warm) to flush the vent of its contents. Alternately you can use cool water and a few drops of nolvasan. This flushes out the cloaca while the cool water helps with the inflammation inside.
I wonder, too, about the egg. That could explain her demeanor. I'm surely repeating myself here, and I apologize, but did she get oyster shell and laying pellets before?
She is on layer feed and was my early morning layer. The day she became ill (Tuesday) she did not lay. However, she did lay on Wednesday. I did not offer oyster shell and you suggested I should for my other girls. I went out that day and purchased some
Also I think you had asked about palpating for egg binding. You will feel the abdomen (like you do for the vent-exam) for any excess lumpiness, etc. Sometimes they can internal lay - in that case you may not feel anything until there are several misplaced yolks which can feel abnormal in her "abdomen", the area between her legs and up to her vent.
Gotcha, I've been feeling and do not feel anything protruding. I'll check her again
Sitting here thinking, I think I'd start to make what I call "soup". The vitamins, a little yogurt, and I'd mash an egg yolk with water and use some of that to make a thick water or a thin soup or broth with the egg yolk, etc. If you dribble stuff to her, it might as well have some nutrients in it. Alternately, you could dissolve her crumbles in water and do this. NutriDrench is also a wonderful product if you're able to use it. It has the electrolytes, vitamins, and a B vitamin to encourage appetite.
Great idea, I have kids and you would think I would figure this stuff out myself
Wednesday's droppings look a bit like she didn't have much nutrition - that forest green skinny solid feces at the bottom. The second could be the droppings from the applesauce flush. Stopping that, perhaps adding powdered coatmeal to the water-soup (another option - grind a little oatmeal in the food processor, mix that with your "broth" whichever recipe you choose) might give her something to solidify her droppings, give her a little carbs for energy.
So definitely:
Stop the applesauce now - she's cleared.
Continue the vitamins and yogurt.
Try to get her to eat anything normal - dampening crumbles, try the egg again, etc.
Make one of the water-soup recipes for the 'dribbling' water to nourish her.
She's a beautiful girl, even sick. Does she feel thin now to you by the way?
Thanks, she's a hatchery chicken from Ideal. I did forget to mention that about her weight. She she is very thin, her breast bone is protruding and she's just lighter
Sorry - these questions and this info are all scrambled and disorganized
No need to ever apologize, I just need any kind of info and suggestions and I'm so grateful you are taking the time to help