MY grades and parents

[ScoobyRoo]

When I was in school (years ago

) We were sent home with 'progress reports' at the fourth week of the quarter. Now our school does the same thing as SS mentioned about the on-line grades. We do find it handy because the daily work grades are on there. If my DD's don't get a paper back OR know the grade on a project they can look on-line if the teacher isn't available. They will know where they are and if they are not happy with their current grades they will ask if they can do any extra credit to bring it up. They want to earn it not bribe for it.

MonkeyZero, I hope your parents are easy on you. Good luck.

 

[joebryant]

Henry'schickens :

...They want to earn it not bribe for it.

MonkeyZero, I hope your parents are easy on you. Good luck.

But, Henry'schickens, making fudge is "earning" it.​

 

[Sonoran Silkies]

Henry'schickens :

When I was in school (years ago

) We were sent home with 'progress reports' at the fourth week of the quarter. Now our school does the same thing as SS mentioned about the on-line grades. We do find it handy because the daily work grades are on there. If my DD's don't get a paper back OR know the grade on a project they can look on-line if the teacher isn't available. They will know where they are and if they are not happy with their current grades they will ask if they can do any extra credit to bring it up. They want to earn it not bribe for it.

....

Yes, if you know what your grades are, you will know where you stand, and should be able to figure out what you are missing/don't understand correctly, how far in the hole you are.

Monkey Zero, your parents need to talk to the teacher about handing graded work back. You cannot know how you are doing and correct your mistakes if you don't know where you stand: what you have done correctly and where you have made mistakes. You might have misunderstood something way back at the beginning that you are using as a building block for what you are learning/understanding now. And of course if that foundation is incorrect it means that nothing works properly or will until you correct that foundation.

Grades should never be a surprise. If they are, something went wrong.​

 

[ScoobyRoo]

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But, Henry'schickens, making fudge is "earning" it.

I gotta laugh! Now that I think about it.........My oldest DD does great in school but needs to work harder to get it (she is happy with anything) She does a little bribing. My Middle DD is just as smart and thrives to be an "A+" student (which she has been forever, sorry bragging moment) She wants to earn it. HOWEVER, my youngest son is a true briber! He will take in my baked goods (including 'Gump's Bread) to his teacher or the lunch monitor lady. He is in 5th grade now and he learned a looooong time ago how to swoon the ladies and make them smile. End results???? They tolerate him more.

 

[ScoobyRoo]

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Yes, if you know what your grades are, you will know where you stand, and should be able to figure out what you are missing/don't understand correctly, how far in the hole you are.

Monkey Zero, your parents need to talk to the teacher about handing graded work back. You cannot know how you are doing and correct your mistakes if you don't know where you stand: what you have done correctly and where you have made mistakes. You might have misunderstood something way back at the beginning that you are using as a building block for what you are learning/understanding now. And of course if that foundation is incorrect it means that nothing works properly or will until you correct that foundation.

Grades should never be a surprise. If they are, something went wrong.

This system is nice but there is one teacher that is impossible. My DD's Geometery teacher does not take the time to grade daily work sheets. If they look done (to him) the students get credit. I asked my DD how do you know if your work is right? She said they don't. Then I told her that it is 'HER' responsibility to ask the teacher if her work is right. After all she is old enough. It has it's frustrating moments. Luckily she got an 'A' last quarter.

 

[Sonoran Silkies]

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Sorry, but if I look at online grades and see missing work or high grades in some areas of work and low ones in others it becomes fairly easy to pinpoint where the problems are occurring. Once you identify the problem areas, you can find out specifically what is wrong and make corrections.

As to whether the grades are subjective or objective, well, that depends on the material and how it is graded: certainly an essay is somewhat subjective, but even that can become objective if specific criteria is listed as a part of the question. For example, it might say "include at least four examples of ..." or "why did the main character do ...; list two specific examples mentioned in chapter X." Multiple choice and matching questions are objective--they are either marked correctly or not. Math is almost always objective. The answer is right or wrong. The process of acquiring is either accurate or not.

I have to ask; how would you expect to know whether a student had learned or not learned the material? If the material is worth teaching, it is worth ensuring that it is learned, otherwise, what is the point?

 

[joebryant]

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Sorry, but if I look at online grades and see missing work or high grades in some areas of work and low ones in others it becomes fairly easy to pinpoint where the problems are occurring. Once you identify the problem areas, you can find out specifically what is wrong and make corrections.

As to whether the grades are subjective or objective, well, that depends on the material and how it is graded: certainly an essay is somewhat subjective, but even that can become objective if specific criteria is listed as a part of the question. For example, it might say "include at least four examples of ..." or "why did the main character do ...; list two specific examples mentioned in chapter X." Multiple choice and matching questions are objective--they are either marked correctly or not. Math is almost always objective. The answer is right or wrong. The process of acquiring is either accurate or not.

I have to ask; how would you expect to know whether a student had learned or not learned the material? If the material is worth teaching, it is worth ensuring that it is learned, otherwise, what is the point?

I can't argue with that.
Something that has to be considered too is that so very often the something "learned" doesn't really make a whole lot of sense to the student(s) until months, maybe years, after their having taken the "test".

 

[M To The Maxx]

Sorry, I haven't been reading much of the recent posts on this thread but I have a question. Monkey Zero, have you every asked about staying after school and having the teacher go over the lesson with you? That just came to my mind.

 

[Kelly G]

joebryant
I'd never even heard of a [u :

counter tenor[/u] until last year when I bought a DVD of the Covent Garden production of "Die Fledermaus" (Joan Sutherland's retirement celebration). They had used one to sing the role of Prince Orlovsky. Turns out that we even have a couple of them who live in Indianapolis.
Are you the mezzo soprano who went to Juliard?

EDIT: BTW, are you aware that your local theater is showing "Turandot" TODAY, Saturday, November 7, 2009 (1 PM ET / 10 AM PT)
Expected Running time: 3 hours, 25 minutes. 2 intermissions:
http://www.ncm.com/Fathom/Upcoming/
http://www.ncm.com/FathomContent/PDF/MET0910Theaters091009_LIVE.pdf

I am ONE of the mezzos who went to Julliard. I loved it...but realized it wasn't for me. I just didn't want it "bad enough." I wasn't all that competitive and found it very stressful. The price was too high. I knew (even on my flight up there) that I didn't want a performance career...I wanted a family and a life...and in my heart of hearts I knew it wasn't for me. But the prestige of attending was a big draw - especially since two competitors of mine also auditioned, but didn't make it.

I'm glad I did it. It was a great experience, and I learned a lot...about music and myself.

AS far as Turandot...It is among the greats! I'm not the biggest fan of opera (my focus was oratorio), but I can appreciate beautiful music of any kind. I saw Tosca at the Met while I was up there (as well as a few others - we got pretty cheap tickets) and enjoyed that very much (no counter tenor, there, though!).​

 

[joebryant]

Anne had to go to a Chinese language meeting today; she drove the Prius. At 12:30 I got in the truck to go see Turandot at 1:00 with my SIL and her hubby. The truck's car battery was dead. Sighhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
Guess I'll be going with Anne to the encore performance Wednesday, November 18, 2009 (6:30 PM local time)
Expected Running time: 3 hours, 25 minutes. 2 intermissions.