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My heart breaks for this poor man. The mentally ill can not be strong armed into submission. Often times they don't even understand what is going on.

What upsets me even more is that he was beaten to death by the very people who should be protecting him.


http://www.cnn.com/2012/05/09/opinion/navarrette-police-brutality/index.html?hpt=hp_c2


'Daddy, help! They're killing me!'

By Ruben Navarrette Jr., CNN Contributor
updated 8:12 AM EDT, Thu May 10, 2012

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Ron Thomas, left, reacts when he finds out two police officers will be charged in the beating death of his son, Kelly Thomas.
STORY HIGHLIGHTS
  • Two police officers are charged in the beating death last July of Kelly Thomas
  • Ruben Navarrette: Courts must treat cops the same as any suspected criminals
  • Victim was a homeless mentally ill man, his dad a retired cop with a mission for justice
  • Navarrette: It's hard to watch horrifying video showing Thomas begging for his dad
Editor's note: Ruben Navarrette Jr. is a CNN.com contributor and a nationally syndicated columnist.
San Diego, California (CNN) -- As evidenced by media stories and public awareness campaigns, Americans have resolved to get tough on bullying. In that spirit, it's time to send a message to bullies with badges.​
We need to tell police who prey on the vulnerable: "No more! When you pile on a suspect and beat him to death, we will treat you just like any other alleged criminal. We will arrest you and prosecute you. And if convicted, you will go to prison for a very long time. We will make an example out of you so that other police officers will think twice before abusing their power."​
The messenger could be the jury that will hear the case against two police officers in Fullerton, California, a city about 25 miles southeast of Los Angeles. A judge ruled Wednesday that the officers will stand trial in the beating death last July of Kelly Thomas, a 37-year-old homeless man afflicted with schizophrenia.​
Cpl. Jay Patrick Cicinelli is charged with involuntary manslaughter and felony use of excessive force. Officer Manuel Ramos faces the more serious charge of second-degree murder, because prosecutors believe he took a more active role in the assault. Both officers have pleaded not guilty.​
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Ruben Navarrette Jr.
This week, at the preliminary hearing to determine whether enough evidence supports proceeding with a trial, prosecutors aired a graphic video of the savage beating. The footage shows about a half dozen officers punching and kicking and putting pressure on Thomas' chest, firing electric shocks from a Taser stun gun, all to supposedly subdue a suspect well beyond the point where he is resisting or capable of resisting arrest.​
Early on, Ramos appears to tell the young man who is sitting on the ground: "You see my fists? They're getting ready to f--- you up!" Another police officer is heard saying: "We ran out of options so I got to the end of my Taser and I ... smashed his face to hell."​
By the end of the video, Thomas is lying in a pool of blood. According to prosecutors, the young man suffered brain injuries, facial fractures, broken ribs and extensive bruises and abrasions. He died five days later.​
What we see in that 33 minutes of footage, including a defenseless Thomas screaming in pain, saying he's sorry and pleading for help, should never happen in the United States of America. When it does happen, it can't be tolerated, justified, or excused.​
That's coming from the son of a retired cop. My father wore a badge for 36 years, and he has no stomach for police brutality. In fact, about 20 years ago, when another piece of videotape surfaced -- that of the Rodney King beating by police officers in 1991 -- I remember my father telling me that, as far as he was concerned, those out-of-control law enforcement officers wailing on King had ceased being cops and become little more than thugs and criminals.​

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Video shows cops beating homeless man
As it turns out, Thomas' father is also a retired law enforcement officer. After his son died, Ron Thomas made it his mission to make sure the story got out and would not be forgotten. He used social media and the Internet to show the world what those officers had done to his son, complete with graphic photos that he took at the side of Kelly Thomas' hospital bed.​
This is a good dad. But he was also, apparently, a good cop who trained fellow deputies on the right way to take down suspects. This is the wrong way. Thomas described the officers' actions as nothing less than a "hate crime against the homeless and mentally ill."​
Last year, Fullerton city officials offered Thomas nearly a million dollars to settle the case. He turned it down, and instead pushed for a criminal trial.​
This should bring some small comfort to Ron Thomas. He needs it. He has to carry around with him for the rest of his life that, as his son was fighting for his life, he cried out for his father to protect him from these bullies. On the video, we hear Kelly Thomas screaming: "Daddy, help! They're killing me!" As a father myself, those words break my heart.​
"Daddy, help! They're killing me!"​
He was killed. And now, if the cops are convicted of this crime, they have to pay.​
 
I sit there every night watching this whole thing as it happened about 50 miles away from me. They killed that poor man, in cold blood. That video is just about the hardest thing I have ever watched. The audio of his screams, the words coming from the police are horrifying. The fact that one of the cops tazer RAN OUT is statement enough.

They decided yesterday there is enough evidence for them to stand trial. Well, duh!!!

ETA: The defense attorney stated that the brain damage probably occured by the paramedics giving him CPR. Now, why were the paramedics giving him CPR? BECAUSE HE WAS BEAT TO DEATH.

Ugh.
 
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I sit there every night watching this whole thing as it happened about 50 miles away from me. They killed that poor man, in cold blood. That video is just about the hardest thing I have ever watched. The audio of his screams, the words coming from the police are horrifying. The fact that one of the cops tazer RAN OUT is statement enough.

They decided yesterday there is enough evidence for them to stand trial. Well, duh!!!

ETA: The defense attorney stated that the brain damage probably occured by the paramedics giving him CPR. Now, why were the paramedics giving him CPR? BECAUSE HE WAS BEAT TO DEATH.

Ugh.
Because they are authority figures with people's lives in their hands, they should face a harsher punishment for abusing such power. Power and authority should not come without restrictions and responsibility.
 
Very sad story.. I watched the video.. to hear a grown man scream for "daddy" is really disturbing. I still feel awful even listening to it. I can't believe only two officers are held responsible.
 
I just watched the full length video .... 33 minutes.

I am sick. Just sick.
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Oh, Dear God, please take care of Kelly Thomas.
I have a son that age. He, too, is schizophrenic. This could have been him.
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Lot of victims here. Cops are the people meant to protect us.. and in this case they failed. But these people aren't the representation of our police. That is one field where the old saying, "one bad apple spoils the bunch" seems to be true. They aren't bad folks and they messed up this time. Very sad, the video is haunting.

EDIT: to be clear I'm not blaming police, I have the utmost respect.
 
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Lot of victims here. Cops are the people meant to protect us.. and in this case they failed. But these people aren't the representation of our police. That is one field where the old saying, "one bad apple spoils the bunch" seems to be true. They aren't bad folks and they messed up this time. Very sad, the video is haunting.

EDIT: to be clear I'm not blaming police, I have the utmost respect.

The victim here is dead. Kelly Thomas.

Yes, there are good and bad in every profession. This is true. Still, the victim here was Kelly Thomas. WAS. He is dead now. The murderers are still out there.

I am so sad about this. I had never even heard about it before this thread.

RIP Kelly Thomas................
 
I plan on following the trial as closely as possible. I may even take a day off to go hug the kid's father. I am not far from there at all, in fact I used to live in Fullerton. I am sick inside everytime more news reports are broadcast. I really, really hope the jury throws the book at them.
 
I just watched the full length video .... 33 minutes.

I am sick. Just sick.
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Oh, Dear God, please take care of Kelly Thomas.
I have a son that age. He, too, is schizophrenic. This could have been him.
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Do you think the cops should have just walked away ? And if so at what point ?
If they had not determined who he was and let him go and it turned out he was a wanted child molester you would want the cops fired.
When you fight with anyone there's a chance you could die.
 
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