My leukemia's back.

[LittleLakePhil]

My mother was dying of cancer (it spread) and refused to take her morphine pills because she didn't want to become an addict. That was my mother the worrier ,in a nutshell.
Thankfully I didn't inherit a full dose of worrier-itis from her. Mainly I worry about other people and wish I could heal them someway. Too much empathy can be painful to the person with it. Ask me.

Yeah my aunt was dieing from pancreatic cancer and refused to take her pain meds cuz she didn't wanna become a junky..... It made no sense.....I guess they have a different idea of addiction..... Technically anything you have to take everything day if no different than taking a pain pill. The pain pills work..... And it's not like a cancer patient who cannot walk out drive is gonna go walking the streets looking for pain pills.
I couldn't last long without a few if my meds .... So what's the difference.
Pain meds let me live my life.... Although I might consider shoulder surgery if they get much worse...... But yeah I could NOT take pain meds.... But then I would sit around and not have a life...... I'd rather take them and live a fuller life that's all......

 

[LittleLakePhil]

Okay amigos I must be off and get a few things done..... Everyone have a great day.

 

[getaclue]

Phil, I read an article that was talking about how all heroine addicts claimed their addiction started because they got hooked on opioids, then they either couldn't get them, or they simply switched to heroine. Some of these claims were made about meth too. It was then determined that opioids are a gateway drug to heroine/meth addiction. Thus the war on opioids. Always remember, it's impossible to stop the flow of illegal things like drugs, guns, human trafficking, etc. Instead, it's easier to stem the flow of something that's legal. Instead of declaring a war on heroine/meth, which they don't seem to be able to control, they declared war on opioids, which they have a LOT more control over. With all the hoopla in the media, they're misdirecting people that will need pain medications for a short period, and scaring them into believing that if they take any prescribed pain medications, they'll become heroine/meth addicts.

 

[getaclue]

I see a much easier way they could help ensure that those needing their pain meds get it, while those that are abusing them, are flagged. Here, we have 2 main pharmacies, CVS, and Walgreens. There are a few private pharmacies, but not many. For years I used CVS, but when we moved here, I changed to Walgreens. For years, when I used CVS, if one pharmacy didn't have whatever was prescribed, I could go to another one that had it on hand, and could fill it. When I went on vacation, if me or my daughter's got sick, our doctors could call in our prescription locally, but I could get it filled in any CVS in whatever state I was in, BUT it had to be at a CVS. Their database was nation wide. Same thing with Walgreens. Why not make the pharmacies merge their databases? That way, the left hand would know what the right hand is doing.

That would end it for those going to more than one doctor, having one filled at one pharmacy chain, then having another one filled at a different pharmacy. If they would merge the databases on all pharmacies, then when someone took one prescription to be filled at one pharmacy, and another to a different pharmacy, it would be flagged, and the pharmacist would know not to fill the additional prescriptions. This would weed out a lot of those that are selling them illegally, and sources for those obtaining them illegally. While that would not stop heroine abuse, it sure would slow down illegal opioid abuse.

 

[bruceha2000]

VT presumably has some sort of program to keep people from doctor hopping to get opiods.

And yes I'm dependent on them..... But there's a difference between that and being an addict.

I got the same treatment from physical therapy a few years ago.... They actually yelled at me and told me not to come back unless I quit working...... Yeah Those PT people can be almost like Drill Sargents....

Yeah but would they pay your bills if you didn't work??

Yeah my aunt was dieing from pancreatic cancer and refused to take her pain meds cuz she didn't wanna become a junky

And that is the sad part. Those drugs were originally created specifically for people like her, ease the pain in the last months of life.

 

[getaclue]

Well, Firefox isn't working right. They've announce there will be a fix that will upload automatically in the background, to fix the problem, in a few hours.

 

[getaclue]

When my Aunt was in the final stages of cancer, her doctor said something about not wanting her addicted to pain meds. I asked him what it mattered at that point? He got this funny look, and agreed it wasn't really an issue.

One of the problems when my dad was in the hospital, in the terminal wing, dyeing of lung cancer, was the fight with the nurses about pain meds. They kept cutting back on his pain meds. The doctor complained, I complained, yet they kept cutting back. One nurse told me she was cutting back on his pain meds, in preparation for him going home, and being given a lesser dose of oral pain meds. I looked at her, blinked, and explained he was in the terminal wing, and wasn't going home. Finally, I spoke with the Hospital Administrator. They had moved some nurses from the regular floor, to the terminal wing WITHOUT training them to the differences. One of the things they do on the normal floor, is decrease the pain medications in preparation for them going home, and usually going on a lesser, oral pain med. That's what they were doing in the terminal wing too.

 

[oldrooster]

I see a much easier way they could help ensure that those needing their pain meds get it, while those that are abusing them, are flagged. Here, we have 2 main pharmacies, CVS, and Walgreens. There are a few private pharmacies, but not many. For years I used CVS, but when we moved here, I changed to Walgreens. For years, when I used CVS, if one pharmacy didn't have whatever was prescribed, I could go to another one that had it on hand, and could fill it. When I went on vacation, if me or my daughter's got sick, our doctors could call in our prescription locally, but I could get it filled in any CVS in whatever state I was in, BUT it had to be at a CVS. Their database was nation wide. Same thing with Walgreens. Why not make the pharmacies merge their databases? That way, the left hand would know what the right hand is doing.

That would end it for those going to more than one doctor, having one filled at one pharmacy chain, then having another one filled at a different pharmacy. If they would merge the databases on all pharmacies, then when someone took one prescription to be filled at one pharmacy, and another to a different pharmacy, it would be flagged, and the pharmacist would know not to fill the additional prescriptions. This would weed out a lot of those that are selling them illegally, and sources for those obtaining them illegally. While that would not stop heroine abuse, it sure would slow down illegal opioid abuse.

They do in Indiana, it's not instant but it gores to some computer somewhere and I think it's checked so if your dentist is in one town next door to pharmacy x and you get 15 pills and your normal pharmacy is the next town over and next door to your Dr and it's brand y somehow it's flagged but it they see it's a 1 time 15 pill script it may not throw a flag but if it shows a pattern then the authorities come into the situation.

 

[oldrooster]

Have the Derby on in mom's memory today she always wanted to watch it on TV. Her family always followed it, they had out of state guests for years that left before the roosters got up to travel the rest of the way to KY to place bets. Some of mom's family celibates it well If they are out of bed at 8am they are passed out drunk by 930 am if not earlier.

 

[bruceha2000]

One of the things they do on the normal floor, is decrease the pain medications in preparation for them going home, and usually going on a lesser, oral pain med. That's what they were doing in the terminal wing too.

Wouldn't there have to be something in a patient's chart saying they are going to be discharged on a certain date before the nurse could even decide it was time to start cutting back?