My leukemia's back.

[wyoDreamer]

@getaclue Reading your posts about your GS has me silently fuming.

I have a sister and a sister-in-law that are teachers - in fact my sister-in-law is the interim principle at the school until the school board hires a new principle. I listen to them complain about how some of the parents are expecting them to be babysitters for the kids; parents that don't make sure the kids do their homework; parents not showing up for parent/teacher conferences or even responding to notes/emails sent home.

And then here I read of the teachers not willing to do their job, follow the rules and procedures set up to help the kids, and go to great lengths with time and effort to avoid doing what needs to be done. I hate that your daughter may have the expense and trouble of lawyers.

 

[bruceha2000]

but at the same time, (off the record), my daughter is to speak to a lawyer. There will be sufficient evidence for a strong case against the school system.

That could be quite expensive unless she finds one that will work pro bono. Even a cheap lawyer is a couple hundred dollars per hour.

 

[getaclue]

wyo, In my experience, I think most teachers actually do try to do a good job, and do what's in the best interest of their students. There are those exception though. Fortunately, they're not the majority. A good teacher can make all the difference in the world, to a child's learning experience.

 

[oldrooster]

Gac, I hope something gets done soon....

 

[oldrooster]

Folks now on my version of the TV drama we call life, this is how my world spins...
I had something happen to me that is beyond belief, I have a crazy ex-girlfriend that I never even dated.

Your all asking WTH is he talking about?
I had a lady 3 doors down from me that I had become friends with that I asked out. We had done stuff together before, I told her up front I was not looking for a serious relati8onship, I just wanted someone to date once in a while. Meaning, go for a walk hand in hand, watch a movie/TV or whatever and hug and kiss. I guess you could say boyfriend/girlfriend without benefits. She went whacko on me, full out crazy ex girlfriend without the girlfriend part! I thought that was teenage and early 20's stuff. But this chick is 45! I never have been friends with let alone try to date a psycho before! (adult word) be crazy is correct! I'm glad I found out what she was before spending any time or money on her, or invest any emotions....

This has me freaking weirded out! I never thought I would ever be around such a nut job. You would have thought I had asked her to become part of my version of the manson family... Now mind you I am not some hippy I'm not a straight laced bow tie wearing pencil neck geek either, but to the pencil necks, I'm the wild child friend, to the hippy's I'm pretty darn square but can be a hoot once in a great while (note a hoot on a rare ocation, meaning if they need a square that can laugh and joke with them when mom and dad wants them to have "clean cut friends over" I'm on the short list)...

 

[getaclue]

I'm expecting things should be done, or done enough to get everything in place, by Christmas. Soon, is rarely an operative word when dealing with an institution, or bureaucracy. When things get in place, I think he'll be able to advance nicely. That's based on past experience. When he got into first grade, he was struggling, and below average. When the school got with his child psychologist, and implemented guidelines that would help him advance, he surpassed all expectations. By the end of first grade, he had completed all of his first grade work, and had advanced into second grade work. He was just shy of finishing second grade, when he graduated from first grade, at the end of the school year.

The plan, and guidelines are not intense, or overly demanding of the teacher(s). When they're in place, he does fantastic. He's extremely smart. The school system dropped the ball, and it's cost him. I'm confident in his ability to overcome this set back, and get back up to speed, once we get things in place.

Report cards came out yesterday. Along with the report cards, is an assessment sheet. It lists all of his tests, the dates, and test scores. I paid attention to the assessment sheet. There were lots of dates, with a particular type test highlighted, showing he failed them, and comments that he was having such difficulty, struggling, etc. That's NOT what I saw.

Let me explain. The type test he seemed to be struggling with the most, was called Theme of the story. For example, in English, each date he tested, for the past several months, he was doing anywhere from 2 - 4 tests. A couple 4 weeks ago, he was given 4 tests. He was tested for: Theme of the story twice, Word meanings in the story, and Comprehension. He passed Word meanings, and Comprehension with a 98 and 99 score. He failed Theme of the story. BUT was re-tested an hour later for Theme of the story. He passed with a score of 100. Since then, in the next 3 weeks, he's gotten good scores on that test.

NOBODY goes from idiot, to brilliant in an hour. Sorry, but it just does NOT work that way. What happened in that hour? On the test, when asked the theme of the story, my grandson was re-telling the story, like on the Comprehension part of the test. The teacher took less than 2 minutes to explain to him, he was putting way too much information. He was just to write a word, a few words, or a sentence about the theme. It took them over 2 months to figure out that this simple little thing was the problem? Once it was explained, he's scored high every since. This does NOT indicate a "learning problem" to me.

 

[Alaskan]

I'm expecting things should be done, or done enough to get everything in place, by Christmas. Soon, is rarely an operative word when dealing with an institution, or bureaucracy. When things get in place, I think he'll be able to advance nicely. That's based on past experience. When he got into first grade, he was struggling, and below average. When the school got with his child psychologist, and implemented guidelines that would help him advance, he surpassed all expectations. By the end of first grade, he had completed all of his first grade work, and had advanced into second grade work. He was just shy of finishing second grade, when he graduated from first grade, at the end of the school year.

The plan, and guidelines are not intense, or overly demanding of the teacher(s). When they're in place, he does fantastic. He's extremely smart. The school system dropped the ball, and it's cost him. I'm confident in his ability to overcome this set back, and get back up to speed, once we get things in place.

Report cards came out yesterday. Along with the report cards, is an assessment sheet. It lists all of his tests, the dates, and test scores. I paid attention to the assessment sheet. There were lots of dates, with a particular type test highlighted, showing he failed them, and comments that he was having such difficulty, struggling, etc. That's NOT what I saw.

Let me explain. The type test he seemed to be struggling with the most, was called Theme of the story. For example, in English, each date he tested, for the past several months, he was doing anywhere from 2 - 4 tests. A couple 4 weeks ago, he was given 4 tests. He was tested for: Theme of the story twice, Word meanings in the story, and Comprehension. He passed Word meanings, and Comprehension with a 98 and 99 score. He failed Theme of the story. BUT was re-tested an hour later for Theme of the story. He passed with a score of 100. Since then, in the next 3 weeks, he's gotten good scores on that test.

NOBODY goes from idiot, to brilliant in an hour. Sorry, but it just does NOT work that way. What happened in that hour? On the test, when asked the theme of the story, my grandson was re-telling the story, like on the Comprehension part of the test. The teacher took less than 2 minutes to explain to him, he was putting way too much information. He was just to write a word, a few words, or a sentence about the theme. It took them over 2 months to figure out that this simple little thing was the problem? Once it was explained, he's scored high every since. This does NOT indicate a "learning problem" to me.

That indicates either 1. Teachers not doi their job, at all, or 2. Teachers with way too many students so the teachers can't get all to pay attention at the same time and get the proper instructions into them.

Sadly.... from all of the other stuff you have said.... I am pretty sure you have 1. Teachers who just are NOT choosing to take the time to properly teach!

 

[Alaskan]

Folks now on my version of the TV drama we call life, this is how my world spins...
I had something happen to me that is beyond belief, I have a crazy ex-girlfriend that I never even dated.

Your all asking WTH is he talking about?
I had a lady 3 doors down from me that I had become friends with that I asked out. We had done stuff together before, I told her up front I was not looking for a serious relati8onship, I just wanted someone to date once in a while. Meaning, go for a walk hand in hand, watch a movie/TV or whatever and hug and kiss. I guess you could say boyfriend/girlfriend without benefits. She went whacko on me, full out crazy ex girlfriend without the girlfriend part! I thought that was teenage and early 20's stuff. But this chick is 45! I never have been friends with let alone try to date a psycho before! (adult word) be crazy is correct! I'm glad I found out what she was before spending any time or money on her, or invest any emotions....

This has me freaking weirded out! I never thought I would ever be around such a nut job. You would have thought I had asked her to become part of my version of the manson family... Now mind you I am not some hippy I'm not a straight laced bow tie wearing pencil neck geek either, but to the pencil necks, I'm the wild child friend, to the hippy's I'm pretty darn square but can be a hoot once in a great while (note a hoot on a rare ocation, meaning if they need a square that can laugh and joke with them when mom and dad wants them to have "clean cut friends over" I'm on the short list)...

Not a fun soap opera

 

[Bunnylady]

@getaclue - one thing I'm a little confused by is your repeated use of the word "teachers," plural. Here in North Carolina, we have 1 teacher in the classroom, but the lower grades also have a teacher's assistant to help pick up the slack and maintain order. Some teachers have to share assistants, but they don't start marching the kids around to multiple teachers in multiple classrooms until at least 4th grade. Is that similar to your system? If so, your grandson's problem is most likely limited to 1 teacher, who perhaps by now has her tail in a crack about the whole situation.

 

[getaclue]

He has 2 main teachers, and 2 teacher's assistants. He has a music teacher too, but that's all she teaches. He goes to 2 main classrooms. He also goes to the music classroom for music class. They started the multiple teacher, multiple classroom in 3rd. grade this year, down here.