OK, one problem with the swingout feed/water doors. I didnt leave enough space between the bottom of the door and the 4x4 timber. The weigh of the water can is causeing the door to drag. I might have to resize the door. Just something for others to think about if they decide to build something similar. Also, I dont know how well this setup will work with chicks as the bottom of the feeders are 4 inches off the ground. I suspect the chicks would just hop up there and eat and drink, I am certain they would once they got used to it, but it might take a bit of training for them to find their food so high off the ground. The feeder and water being set up does seem to keep them cleaner than they where just setting on the ground.