My topic for a persuasive essay : Good yes? Discuss^^

[Royd]

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Who's We? I thought Neandrethal was just one, in a long line of many, which got us to where we are, today. In 10,000 years, who will the We be, which drives the current human race to extinction?

You really need to get over the whole, Humans are evil and deserve to be destroyed, mentallity.

I'm not sure what you mean by the last sentence. Humans are awesome and I have alot of human friends. I enjoy studying humans, I really like anthropology, which is a big reason as to why I chose this topic for my essay and speech. And hey I'm a human too! And you're a human too
By "we" I meant early humans. Cro-magnons, call em' whatever ye like. Either neanderthals couldn't compete, or we absorbed them, but they're extinct. They're not part of the direct line of our still continueing evolution. Scratch my previous sentence in my previous response, I've learned today that neandertal was most likely a sub-species. Our "cousins" so to speak.
I borrowed a bible from the anatomy teacher today and what I found was a little too brief for me. I read the Adam and Eve story... The biggest thing that struck me was that it said Adam had flocks, I'm guessing sheep. Domesticated sheep. Since the story was too brief and my brain putting things together was too brief, I've decided to talk about the timeline a little bit more. After the timeline is done THEN I will talk about our ancestors. I'm not saying that the Adam and Eve story is wrong entirely (I'm as stubborn as most people) so my best guess is that they were ancient humans. And I need to research when sheep were domesticated from a factual website or book. The domestication is a big part, it can tell me alot about Adam and Eve. But considering Adam and Eve were in an advanced part of our history, persuading the class shouldn't be too hard. I believe it's the lack of knowledge and what's out there that has people thinking only one thing.
I know some people who are absolutely "nope nope G-d said this happened so thats the way it is". It will only be a challenge to persuade the stubborn. But for the open-minded and logical, not that hard. If only Charles Darwin was still here (one of my heroes).

I know you are in Canada, but here, the indoctrination, in schools and the media, is that the Earth would be such a wonderful place to enjoy, if it weren't for all those pesky humans, running around messing things up. It is becoming deeply rooted into today's thinking.

As for Adam and Eve, whether through creation by an outside force or evolution, it all has to come down to a single beginning, at some time. Something from nothing, or something from something else.

 

[Moochie]

I'm not in Canada.
Weird and sunny California.

 

[chickened]

Something for you to consider when assigning a timeline to Adam and Eve. Until the fall they were immortal, it was only until the eating of the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil did they begin to age as the story is told. With that said time had no relevance and there is no way to really tell from the Bible how much time had elapsed from the first sin backwards to Adams' creation. There is also no mention as to how much time Adam was without Eve. Adams age is accounted for from the fall forward.

 

[Royd]

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Well, then, you should understand what I was saying.

 

[Royd]

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What good is the single life, without beer and chicks?

 

[RHRanch]

I'll give some real advice that will help you get a good grade, forget all the folks who are debating the points of your argument with you. What your points/evidence is does not concern me except as tools for your argument, meaning that they either support your view or don't support it.

Here goes:

1. All papers are a form of persuasive essay - be it a 1 page or a 200 page dissertation.
2. All you have to do is come up with a topic, decide what your position is and research for arguments for and against your position. Try to stick to supportable evidence, not opinions.
3. Organize your paper by saying in the intro: "This is what I am going to talk about: (topic/position)" "These are the 3 pieces of evidence that support my position/this is how I am going to prove my assertion"
4. Present your three (or more) main pieces of supportive evidence.
5. Restate your position, and review how you have supported it. Then you're done.

 

[Spookwriter]

Four pages into the thread and at this point I'm wondering what
the focus is. And I'm really trying to follow along.

But if it really matters what type of flock Adam had, archaeology tells
us the first domesticated animal was the dog. There are certain reasons
for an animal to become domesticated. As a source of food being prime.


Domestication Table

Animal Where Domesticated Date

Dog undetermined ~ 14-30,000 BC?
Sheep Western Asia 8500 BC
Cat Fertile Crescent 8500 BC
Goats Western Asia 8000 BC
Pigs Western Asia 7000 BC
Cattle Eastern Sahara 7000 BC
Chicken Asia 6000 BC
Guinea pig Andes Mountains 5000 BC
Donkey Northeast Africa 4000 BC
Horse Kazakhstan 3600 BC
Silkworm China 3500 BC
Llama Peru 3500 BC
Bactrian camel Southern Russia 3000 BC
Dromedary camel Saudi Arabia 3000 BC
Honey Bee Egypt 3000 BC
Banteng Thailand 3000 BC
Water buffalo Pakistan 2500 BC
Duck Western Asia 2500 BC
Yak Tibet 2500 BC
Goose Germany 1500 BC
Alpaca Peru 1500 BC
Reindeer Siberia 1000 BC
Turkey Mexico 100 BC-AD 100

 

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[Moochie]

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This helps alot, thank you. I thought sheep because in all the cartoon bible story movies I've seen there was sheep. I've only seen a child's book with Adam and Eve (mainly pictures and large text) and there were sheep in it. Wolves were being domesticated by hunters, what eventually became the dachshund sleeping in my bed at the moment.
Nothing much is going on in the thread. Just me piecing things together. I'm not trying to persuade the adults on this forum, but the people in my english period, so I only expect questions like "how do you explain that" and "what about this" yadda yadda. This'll be quite fun when mid-terms come around.
Today in history we were talking about races and someone behind me said "ya I wonder where all these colors came from from just two people". I was going to tell him about Pangea and migration but he probably wouldn't listen. The stubborn folk ya know? I'll just save my words for mid-terms, as the same guy is in my english period.

 

[Moochie]

These guys were in Europe. So they're put aside for now. http://www.modernhumanorigins.com/human-evolution-cro-magnon
But perhaps Adam and Eve (now means general human population from that area, not just the two) came from these guys? http://archaeology.about.com/od/skthroughsp/qt/Skhul-Cave-Israel.htm and the Qafzeh.