Name that Coturnix!! Help me identify, please :)

Discussion in 'Quail' started by SilkieRose, Jul 23, 2013.

  1. SilkieRose

    SilkieRose Songster

  2. buttonquailtx

    buttonquailtx Chirping

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    The light birds are Golden, the dark ones with white breast are tuxedo, the whites can be either English White or A&M (the only way to tell is by adult weight, A&M's will be much heavier). It is a very good flock of mixed birds. Very nice to look at. Congrats.
     
  3. SilkieRose

    SilkieRose Songster

    Thank you!!! The light ones have been said to be Golden & Italian. The plumage definitely seems to have the V-pattern that I've seen in Italians, but how do you create an Italian?? Breeding what to what? I'm confused :)Not sure which. I have the tuxedos down!! SO STINKIN' CUTE!!! omg!!! I only have 2 that look to be Tibetan or Rosetta... which, do you know?
    The whites all have spots on them so I don't know if that takes them out of the EW group & puts them straight into the A&M category.
    Thanks so much for the help. This is my first hatch.

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  4. buttonquailtx

    buttonquailtx Chirping

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    Goldens and Italian are actually the same gene. It is super easy to produce Goldens. If you breed a Golden to any other color, you will get 50% Golden and 50% of another color. If you breed Golden to Golden, you will get 50% Golden 25% other colors, and 25% dead eggs. A double dose of the Golden gene is fatal to the developing embryo. I have mostly Goldens with a few browns mixed in. I find that they lay so much that I can just set 25% more eggs than I actually want to hatch.
     
  5. freeflyin

    freeflyin In the Brooder

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    So are you saying that if you breed an Italian to a brown will you get 50% Italian and 50% brown?
     
  6. buttonquailtx

    buttonquailtx Chirping

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    Exactly. The Golden gene is a dominant gene.
     
  7. veggiecanner

    veggiecanner Songster

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    The golden gene is giving me som trouble. The chicks I have hatch that show the golden gene are being born with deormaties. I culled 2 today.
     
  8. buttonquailtx

    buttonquailtx Chirping

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    Your brood stock might be too closely related. You might want to separate all the female goldens into one cage and the males in another. Try adding browns from a different source/breeder to each cage, keeping your male to female ratio at 1:3.
     
  9. veggiecanner

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    The person I got them from said they were half brothers and sisters. That I could breed them.
    I am working on introducing new brown stock, But I am removing all the golden stock, They just seem to frail.
    If I want golden I'll get some hardiier stock later.
     

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