Naturally Worming Chickens

[Phoenixxx]

Not that I wasn't successful treating with other things, more like unable to find and acquire other things. Anyway, now that I'm at 7 eggs/day, that x 14 days is an awful lot of wasted eggs. Chemicals were going to be my absolute last resort but thankfully I don't need to go that route anymore!

 

[appps]

Its okay the first one came through

This is very interesting as its the first one of these that seems to have any proof it has worked.

I was planning to grow wormwood next to the coop so they could nibble on any leaves that poke through into their area, thinking that would keep the amount eaten at a reasonable rate. Im not treating active worms, so this was just as a preventative.

Will book mark her site and would really like to hear a follow up from you in a few weeks on if they stayed gone (as in did it kill eggs too)

 

[appps]

This is actually a very intersting page from that site. How to do your own fecal test for worms.
http://fiascofarm.com/goats/fecals.htm

 

[Phoenixxx]

I know, right? I was looking into some of the others like Verm-X but from what I could find, that product is no good for an active infestation. Things like black walnut hull work, according to what I found on google, and that is actually one of Molly's ingredients. But I couldn't find the black walnut hull in the grocery store and was gonna check out the organic store (they stock all kinds of strange bulk herbs) when I found Molly's.

Before you choose a variety to plant (good idea, by the way - animals aren't as dumb as we think, they've been curing their own ailments for eons without our help) look them up because they all do different things.

 

[Krischick]

I was using de regularly on my flock in their food in their coop...then I read don't use it so I stopped..3 weeks later I had a ring worm out break and my egg production was cut in half had to use an unorganic wormer to gain control..needless to say de is back to being used an everything is back to normal ..

 

[dawg53]

I was using de regularly on my flock in their food in their coop...then I read don't use it so I stopped..3 weeks later I had a ring worm out break and my egg production was cut in half

had to use an unorganic wormer to gain control..needless to say de is back to being used an everything is back to normal ..

Ringworm is a fungus, not a worm. Ringworm CAN infect humans from dogs, cats, and chickens. It can be treated with over the counter anti-fungals.
DE does not treat fungus nor worms.

 

[Krischick]

Ringworm is a fungus, not a worm. Ringworm CAN infect humans from dogs, cats, and chickens. It can be treated with over the counter anti-fungals.
DE does not treat fungus nor worms.

 

[Phoenixxx]

I GOT PROOF that Molly's herbals WORKS!!! So, I may have mentioned that I had to repeat the wormwood but that I doubled the dose... I've also been using the "weekly maintenance mix" monthly... Well, I found a local vet that offered to do some fecals and - guess what - she found NOTHING! Bye-bye, tapeworms!

And I quote the dear old doc: "the worming medications are out to lunch, not safe at all.... so if you've found a good herbal that's obviously working, stay with it. It's much better for you and your chickens."

 

[cafarmgirl]

I'm not sure why your vet thinks that worming medications are "out to lunch, not safe at all..." Some of the dewormers that we use on our chickens are the very same ones that your doctor would prescribe for you if YOU were to come down with a case of worms! Not only are they safe, they have a wide margin of safety in dosing. That means it takes huge overdoses to have even the possibility of seeing negative effects. I totally understand those who want to try natual or herbal worm remedies but to have a vet write off dewormers as "not safe at all" is a bit too much. It is true that some are not very effective anymore as a poultry dewormer and that includes Ivermectin.

It would be a very good idea to continue with the fecal samples on a regular basis as false negatives are common if the parasites are not shedding at the time a sample is done.

 

[Phoenixxx]

I'm not sure why your vet thinks that worming medications are "out to lunch, not safe at all..."  Some of the dewormers that we use on our chickens are the very same ones that your doctor would prescribe for you if YOU were to come down with a case of worms!  Not only are they safe, they have a wide margin of safety in dosing.  That means it takes huge overdoses to have even the possibility of seeing negative effects.  I totally understand those who want to try natual or herbal worm remedies but to have a vet write off dewormers as "not safe at all" is a bit too much.  It is true that some are not very effective anymore as a poultry dewormer and that includes Ivermectin.

It would be a very good idea to continue with the fecal samples on a regular basis as false negatives are common if the parasites are not shedding at the time a sample is done.

If they were safe then why must the eggs be tossed for two weeks after treatment? The only "safe" chemical one is piperazine but that only works on roundworms. She (the vet) said that the chemical treatments are very hard on chickens' systems and should be a last resort only.