Need Chicken Run Improvements for Winter

gtaus

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This is my first winter with laying hens in northern Minnesota. Only a few weeks into snow, and already I know that I need to start planning improvements for my chicken run for next winter.

Currently, my 13x13 chicken run is made with 2x4 wire fencing and held in place with tee posts. I have bird netting on top to prevent eagle and hawks attacks. It severed me well until we got snow. The problems I have now are that 1) the bird netting fills up with snow and collapses and 2) my chickens will not go outside into the snow covered run, and 3) my gate opens now, but when I get a little more snow on the ground it may not open.

Here is a picture of my setup this past summer:

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Some things I would like to improve are the following:

1) I would like to make chicken run panels, much like the dog kennel door section, so that I could arrange/rearrange the run as desired. My coop is built on a boat trailer and is mobile; I would like to be able to move the chicken run as well so I do not plan on cementing posts into the ground to make a permanent, stationary run.

2) The panels should be built well enough to hold a solid covered top. Part of the new chicken run should be covered so I can keep the floor/litter/bedding snow free for at least part of the run.

3) I would like to staple plastic around the chicken run to cut down on cold wind and maybe even add a greenhouse like effect in the run, at least on sunny days.

4) The dog panel door works well for most of the year, but I am thinking a new door would have to be elevated about 1 foot off the ground because already I am having a problem keeping the door swinging free with just 2 inches of snow on the ground. I was thinking of a split door, with the bottom "half" maybe only one foot tall so that it could be kept closed in the winter but still not too difficult to step over and access the run in the winter.

5) The bird netting on top of the run worked great until we started getting snow. Unfortunately, the snow sticks to the web, builds up over a few hours, and collapses the net from the weight. I knock the snow off with a broom and it springs back, but still, I think I need a better winter option.

6) Ideally, the covered panels for the top should fit on top of the side panels. Everything should be like a modular system where I could easily put up side panels and throw a top (covered or uncovered) on the run by myself.

If anyone has thoughts about these ideas, I would like to hear about them. There may be other things I have yet to think about, but that's my list so far. I realize that this question may have been asked/answered before, so I did a search on BYC forums but did not find much related to my concerns. However, if someone has link(s) to this topic or my concerns, I don't expect anyone to reinvent the wheel. I have been on BYC forums long enough to understand that almost everything asked has probably been asked before, but the problem most often is to find that information.

Thanks for any suggestions.
 
1) I would like to make chicken run panels, much like the dog kennel door section, so that I could arrange/rearrange the run as desired.

To me this is your huge issue. How can you do this and build it strong enough to resist snow load plus, if you cover the top and sides to keep snow out, wind load?

My thought is to build something permanent for winter. I only see six hens, it would not have to be that big. Are you going to be moving it in the snow anyway? Then use something in the summer when snow is not an issue.
 
Here is my chalet coop, the center part was done by someone who knew what he was doing, the over dangles were filled by me (badly)
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and made green house-y. But I like the extra spaces in the winter.. I am always adding and taking down pens as needed, the little addition to the front, is just a pallet, and an old dresser frame, I put it up for extra walking space this winter. We should get at least 2' of snow that stays for the season.
 
Here is my chalet coop, the center part was done by someone who knew what he was doing, the over dangles were filled by me (badly)View attachment 1964754 and made green house-y. But I like the extra spaces in the winter.. I am always adding and taking down pens as needed, the little addition to the front, is just a pallet, and an old dresser frame, I put it up for extra walking space this winter. We should get at least 2' of snow that stays for the season.

OK, I got an idea of what you meant by porches. I have thought about building a 4x8 "porch" like attached to your building. That is probably all the bigger it would have to be for the winter for my 10 hens. I don't see that as very mobile, however, and would like to consider other options. But yes, I am considering just building something like your porch. That would be very easy for me.
 
To me this is your huge issue. How can you do this and build it strong enough to resist snow load plus, if you cover the top and sides to keep snow out, wind load?

Yes, that is a big problem and I have not found a way around it yet.

My thought is to build something permanent for winter. I only see six hens, it would not have to be that big. Are you going to be moving it in the snow anyway? Then use something in the summer when snow is not an issue.

Yes, I have been considering a permanent structure for the winter for my 10 hens. And I agree that a winter chicken run would not have to be very big. I would not want to move my coop or chicken run after it starts snowing.

My original idea was to have a mobile coop and mobile chicken run so I could move it around my 3 acres of land and therefore the girls would get fresh grass with the move. I had a nice grassy run for almost 2 months this summer before the chickens ate and scratched everything down to the dirt. Next year, if possible, I would like to move the coop and run every month to a new spot for fresh grass. In the winter months, I have no desire to move anything.
 
Why not just use kennel panels then? They even make sloped tarp roofs for them. No need to re-invent the wheel.

I did not know they made sloped tarp roofs for dog kennels. I'll have to check that out. Do you know if the tarp roofs are designed to shed off snow? Snow load is always a concern.

I let my nephew borrow my 2 dog kennels for a few months (2 years ago) but he has not returned them yet. He has a big dog in town, and actually uses the kennels, but I was disappointed that he failed to return my kennels as we had agreed. I did not need the kennels at the time, but I sure could use them now.

What I do have is a 50 foot roll of 6 foot tall 2x4 wire in my garage which I could add to my existing chicken run. I was thinking about making panels out of that wire, but don't want to cut a new roll unless I'm sure what direction to take.

I have no desire to re-invent the wheel, so thanks for that suggestion.
 
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How about cattle or hog panels bent into a hoop run? You can cover with transparent tarps. I used some panels bent into hoops for green beans and cucumbers this year and plan to cover them with aforementioned tarps for extra run space protected from wind and snow SHOULD mostly slide off. I anchored them with some short lengths of iron well pipe we had laying around and also light weight t posts. I haven’t ordered the tarps yet but your post reminded me of my plan.
They’re pretty easy to do even by yourself. You can of course make a wood frame etc like people do but Since this will be in my garden behind electric and field fencing In not going to bother with that and will move the panels in the spring when it’s time to plant.
 

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