Need help identifying tumbler breed

[Animal-lover339]

Hello, I recently bought three pairs of tumbler breeds from a freind he does not know what breed they are and I am just curious I don’t really keep pigeons other than rscing pigeons so if anyone has an idea to what breed they are it would be helpful

 

[casportpony]

@WVduckchick, @Pyxis, can you help?

 

[WVduckchick]

I have no idea. I’ll tag a few others
@sourland @biophiliac @backyard pigeons @cavemanrich @Old_Strain_Lover

 

[sourland]

Hello, I recently bought three pairs of tumbler breeds from a freind he does not know what breed they are and I am just curious I don’t really keep pigeons other than rscing pigeons so if anyone has an idea to what breed they are it would be helpful View attachment 2821183View attachment 2821185View attachment 2821186

Perhaps Birmingham Rollers. The mottled/grizzles almost look like roller/tippler crosses. Did your friend fly these birds, and did they perform?

 

[Old_Strain_Lover]

The bird in the front of the first picture looks like it could possibly be a Catalonian tumbler... the others likely look like some kind of crosses.