Need some expert duck advice...

[TJAnonymous]

Just curious for future reference...I live in NWA. Will the U of A test a dead chicken or ducks if the cause is unknown? I had a rooster die last year, cause unknown. So, I just wondered if it were to happen again if there is a place I could take it to see why.

It's possible. I know the state lab in Little Rock will test. You can reach out to Dustin Clark and ask him since you are local. He's a really good guy

 

[TJAnonymous]

OK, finally managed to snap some pictures. You can see how emaciated her chest looks.... Especially compared to the Perkins or my drake.

 

[KaleIAm]

I understand where you are coming from. I don't have any way to test though. I tried to get any of the local vets to test my chickens for internal parasites and they all declined. No one here treats chickens (or ducks). I have horses and goats though so I usually have wormer on hand because I do a rotational worming schedule for the large animals. For example, I will be administering Fenbendazol this month and then Quest Plus in May.

A silver lining in my situation is that the University of Arkansas has a really robust Poultry Department (thanks Tyson!) and the head veterinarian is willing to work with me via email. He will give me his professional opinion if I send him video or photos although he is located 4 hrs away so I can't really take my birds up to see him. I don't want to abuse his willingness to help, though, so I usually only bother him if I have a major concern (like Mareks or MG).

I completely understand. I might make the same choice if I were in your situation. I am very fortunate to have so many avian vets in my area.

Have you palpated your duck's keel bone or are you just observing her visually?

 

[TJAnonymous]

I completely understand. I might make the same choice if I were in your situation. I am very fortunate to have so many avian vets in my area.

Have you palpated your duck's keel bone or are you just observing her visually?

Just visually. My ducks have never been very tame. If I try to pick her up, she will likely panic and go bonkers. However, we do have a routine every night to herd them into their coop so I could always catch her after she goes inside.

 

[KaleIAm]

Just visually. My ducks have never been very tame. If I try to pick her up, she will likely panic and go bonkers. However, we do have a routine every night to herd them into their coop so I could always catch her after she goes inside.

Personally I would feel her keel bone. Even my vets do that before determining body condition. I would feel another bird for comparison.

 

[addctd2plnts]

Hijacking a bit here, but what is the withdrawal time on eating eggs after working with ivomec please?

I've seen as little as 1 week on some sites but as a human doctor I'd bring something up. First, Ivermectin is literally one of the world's safest medications with a HUGE margin of safety! This means that in studies they have given up to EIGHT times the recommended dose to animals for as long as 60 days, and found only minimal temporary side effects. If you take asperin at 8 times the dose, you certainly will be hositalized and could easily die, for comparison. In addition, they found no effects on pregnant animals, even at high levels. Ivermectin is used worldwide on humans every day for a variety of issues, and contrary to the lamestream media, there were not people dying from taking Ivermectin for Covid. The absolute worst that happened was that people got a bit queasy, and half that was probably from their panic of having Covid LOL The amount in an egg is certainly lower than you give your dog in monthly heartworm prevention, and so minuscule in a dog or human that it would not even be a therapeutic dose. There's no real reason to withdraw eggs, except for people who want zero in their eggs. I'd certainly feed them to my dogs, rather than throw them out, EXCEPT for dogs that are in the collie breeds or Collie mixes, because they have a genetic difference that allows Ivermectin to penetrate the blood brain barrier. In these breeds, it is better to NEVER use Ivermectin.

 

[TJAnonymous]

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I've seen as little as 1 week on some sites but as a human doctor I'd bring something up. First, Ivermectin is literally one of the world's safest medications with a HUGE margin of safety! This means that in studies they have given up to EIGHT times the recommended dose to animals for as long as 60 days, and found only minimal temporary side effects. If you take asperin at 8 times the dose, you certainly will be hositalized and could easily die, for comparison. In addition, they found no effects on pregnant animals, even at high levels. Ivermectin is used worldwide on humans every day for a variety of issues, and contrary to the lamestream media, there were not people dying from taking Ivermectin for Covid. The absolute worst that happened was that people got a bit queasy, and half that was probably from their panic of having Covid LOL The amount in an egg is certainly lower than you give your dog in monthly heartworm prevention, and so minuscule in a dog or human that it would not even be a therapeutic dose. There's no real reason to withdraw eggs, except for people who want zero in their eggs. I'd certainly feed them to my dogs, rather than throw them out, EXCEPT for dogs that are in the collie breeds or Collie mixes, because they have a genetic difference that allows Ivermectin to penetrate the blood brain barrier. In these breeds, it is better to NEVER use Ivermectin.

Completely off topic, but I've had Covid twice. My family and I caught the Delta variant over Labor day weekend. It was very unpleasant and the sickest I've been in my adult life but we all recovered with no medication. All 3 of us came down sick AGAIN in January with Omicron. We weren't nearly as sick as the first time around but I couldn't afford to miss work because of some critical deadlines. I have horses and always have Ivermectin paste on hand. I decided to take it. I measured out the appropriate dose based upon weight and doctor recommendation. I took it for 2 days and my symptoms actually got worse. On the 3rd day, I stopped the Ivermectin and switched to the Zelenko protocol - Vitamins C, D, Zinc, and Quercetin. Within 24 hours my symptoms were nearly gone. I was quite surprised... Just goes to underscore the sentiment that the ART of medicine is NOT one size fits all. What works for one person may not work for another.... And everyone should have the right to administer based upon their own personal situation.

OK, off the soapbox.

 

[Miss Lydia]

I've seen as little as 1 week on some sites but as a human doctor I'd bring something up. First, Ivermectin is literally one of the world's safest medications with a HUGE margin of safety! This means that in studies they have given up to EIGHT times the recommended dose to animals for as long as 60 days, and found only minimal temporary side effects. If you take asperin at 8 times the dose, you certainly will be hositalized and could easily die, for comparison. In addition, they found no effects on pregnant animals, even at high levels. Ivermectin is used worldwide on humans every day for a variety of issues, and contrary to the lamestream media, there were not people dying from taking Ivermectin for Covid. The absolute worst that happened was that people got a bit queasy, and half that was probably from their panic of having Covid LOL The amount in an egg is certainly lower than you give your dog in monthly heartworm prevention, and so minuscule in a dog or human that it would not even be a therapeutic dose. There's no real reason to withdraw eggs, except for people who want zero in their eggs. I'd certainly feed them to my dogs, rather than throw them out, EXCEPT for dogs that are in the collie breeds or Collie mixes, because they have a genetic difference that allows Ivermectin to penetrate the blood brain barrier. In these breeds, it is better to NEVER use Ivermectin.

 

[Miss Lydia]

You def need to do a hands-on examination. Not sure if her keel bone is protruding or if she is just a mature duck and has that look about her. I have a Buff female that gets very similar in looks around her crop chest area. She is almost 6 yrs old now but when she matured and I saw her chest like this I thought for sure something was wrong with her.
This is what I am talking about I looked and looked for a picture of a SA with a front view but couldn't find one but from the side this may be similar to yours.
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My ducks aren't happy about me picking them up either so I wait till they go inside for the night and follow and pick up the one I need to examine.

 

[jjackson-7]

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Completely off topic, but I've had Covid twice. My family and I caught the Delta variant over Labor day weekend. It was very unpleasant and the sickest I've been in my adult life but we all recovered with no medication. All 3 of us came down sick AGAIN in January with Omicron. We weren't nearly as sick as the first time around but I couldn't afford to miss work because of some critical deadlines. I have horses and always have Ivermectin paste on hand. I decided to take it. I measured out the appropriate dose based upon weight and doctor recommendation. I took it for 2 days and my symptoms actually got worse. On the 3rd day, I stopped the Ivermectin and switched to the Zelenko protocol - Vitamins C, D, Zinc, and Quercetin. Within 24 hours my symptoms were nearly gone. I was quite surprised... Just goes to underscore the sentiment that the ART of medicine is NOT one size fits all. What works for one person may not work for another.... And everyone should have the right to administer based upon their own personal situation.

OK, off the soapbox.

What you’re saying makes lot of sense and as far as ingesting the eggs personally I probably wouldn’t care, but because we do sell eggs as well I would want to “follow protocol”. And we also do have Border Collies and they get eggs so would want to be cautious about that as well.