Need some help determining Ameraucana breeding colors?

[Ridgerunner]

Blue may or may not be extended black based.

Then what can it be based on and still be solid blue?

 

[pips&peeps]

There is also alot of information at www.ameraucana.org

 

[Sonoran Silkies]

Thanks guy's for all the information, I never would have thought that you could breed two ameraucanas together of different colors and not get an ameraucanas. I can see that I have a lot of reading to do on this subject. I'm gonna have to find a "Chicken Genetics for Dummies" book. lol

Well, ameraucana breeders are very picky. With the way hatcheries are about calling EEs, americanas or araucanas when they are nowhere near the standard it is understandable. Even as poor quality a most hatchery silkies are, they usually at least bear some resemblance to the standard.

Most non-ameraucana breeders would call them mixed variety or pet quality ameraucanas. There is more to the standard than just variety. To quote the Bantam Standard, "shape makes the breed and color makes the variety" (pg 25 of the 2011 edition). I am pretty sure that the APA Standard of Perfection makes a similar statement.

 

[Sonoran Silkies]

Quote: Pretty much any e-allele. Least likely (but not impossible) is E^Wh. Melanizers need to be added to prevent leakage.

 

[pips&peeps]

If the bird's color does not breed true more than 50% of the time, then it is not considered an ameraucana.

 

[Ridgerunner]

Pretty much any e-allele.  Least likely (but not impossible) is E^Wh.  Melanizers need to be added to prevent leakage.  

Those sneaky melanizers. Every time I think I've figured something out, something else shows up to complicate it.

So you're saying blue is somewhat like recessive white? There's no telling what's hiding under it.

Thanks for your response.

 

[Sonoran Silkies]

Quote: No, not really. Blue doesn't really hide things, and there are some really picky ways to figure out the likely e-allele (in addition to breeding results). Classroom-at-The-Coop has some recent threads about it.

 

[calliope]

This is very interesting, thank you for the information. How do you get the wheaten blue color then?

 

[sueiris]

so if i wanted to breed my white ameraucana pullet, how can i breed her to produce ameraucana's and not easter eggers? what colors can she produce?

 

[JesWith3]

as I said before if you cross anything but the colors I mentioned, you get easter eggers

This makes no sense to me. If you start out with pure Ameraucana's how can they have offspring that are not pure Ameraucanas? Say for instance, if a Silver X Silver cross...those babies are not Silvers? Likewise, if a *pure* Silver X *pure* black cross, those babies are now somehow mutts?? Please, make it make sense, because I cannot wrap my brain around this.