Need Wood Duck and Mandarin Experts' Advice

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I always used willow trees and stuff I just dug up from around our river, you need trees and plant that can handle a lot of water, so river birch, black willows, things of that nature, also pampas grass works well as it's too tuff for them to eat, gets big and bush and gives them cover.
Both wood duck and mandarins are cavity nesters, they do jump from outrageous heights as soon as they hatch, a small 3 foot drop onto carpet or a tub of water wont hurt a thing, but I've never done it they do just fine on their own, the only ones that have done it here are just the ones that jump out of my hand, LOL

They do well on any commercial maintenance or layer diet, you dont have to have all that expensive Mazuri feed, it's just a waste of your money, and is pretty much the same as Purina Layena (what I used most of the time) as Purina makes all Mazuri feeds anyway.
They do love catfish food though as a treat if you want to give them some of that.
A coop is a wasted effort on waterfowl, they arent going to use it and dont need it, give them a nice pond in your aviary and that's where they will sleep, they dont care if it's 100 and raining, or 0 and snowing, they are gone stay on that water.
With these two and elevated perches are nice for them too. I always got logs and stuff like that and put in their pens for them to perch on, once your trees get big enough, they perch in them too. This is especially needed around the nest box area.
also more than 1 box per hen is best to give them options, they are selective about where they like to lay. if you have 4 pair, give them 6 boxes

Thats about it, they arent too big of a deal to take care of, actually they are the easiest out of the wild species.

As for would I get wodd ducks or mandarins, do you mean which do I prefer? Both, they are equally beautiful, mandarins are on average a little less flightly than wood ducks, and dont require a permit if you plan to eventually sell them. Oh and just a wrod of caution, neither of these ship well as eggs, so dont blow a hole lot of money on eggs, get yearling pairs if possible, there will be tons of them for sale this fall, most will take your order now. Or if you have found some reasonable egg prices somewhere, try them, just be warned. Theres another post on here where a lady just paid $103 for 12 mandarin eggs and didnt get nothing! You could buy 2 pairs for that
 
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Actually that is incorrect. Some states do require a permit to just keep/own them.............NYS is one of them. There are states that just defer to the Fed laws but many have their own requirements. In NY there is a Class A and Class B permit. They are written as a "Gamebird license" but also cover ducks, geese, swans, pheasants, quail etc. (native species) Class A is if you plan to posses and sell, Class B is posses only.

Also, in NY a Class A permit is only valid if you have the appropriate FWS permit.........................so according to NYS law, to posses a Wood duck in NY, you would need a Class B permit and the FWS form 3-186 showing that you legally purchased the bird and that the bird is properly marked. To sell them, (adult birds, ducklings, eggs) you would need a Class A license, FWS Waterfowl Sale and Disposal Permit and each bird must be properly marked.

giffy
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Yes a USDI Migratory Waterfowl Permit is needed, BUT only if you are selling them, no permit is required just to own them. A licensed breeder will give you a form from the sale from his permit, keep that copy, that is all you need to posses them

Ah... ok. I didn't realize that. And that goes for all states?

No it does not... Here in Utah we need a permit from the state just to keep them. Check with your division of wildlife resources. They will tell you what you need to keep them. To sell them, there is a list of birds protected under the Migratory Bird Treaty Act that will require you to have a Federal License in order to sell, barter, transport or in any way change hands with these birds. Mandarins, you don't need a permit to sell, same for ringed teal and other species not listed under the Act. Some breeders will send you the papers anyway... Good luck! Love these birds, they are amazing to watch!
 
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Actually that is incorrect. Some states do require a permit to just keep/own them.............NYS is one of them. There are states that just defer to the Fed laws but many have their own requirements. In NY there is a Class A and Class B permit. They are written as a "Gamebird license" but also cover ducks, geese, swans, pheasants, quail etc. (native species) Class A is if you plan to posses and sell, Class B is posses only.

Also, in NY a Class A permit is only valid if you have the appropriate FWS permit.........................so according to NYS law, to posses a Wood duck in NY, you would need a Class B permit and the FWS form 3-186 showing that you legally purchased the bird and that the bird is properly marked. To sell them, (adult birds, ducklings, eggs) you would need a Class A license, FWS Waterfowl Sale and Disposal Permit and each bird must be properly marked.

giffy
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Do you know about S.C. I tryed looking but I cant tell if I need one for Mandarins.
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Giffy, you beat me to it! There is only one license in UT needed, and the Federal one if you want to sell. Actually, There are 2 permits, but the one just to posses them includes sales of up to $5k. Anything over that will be a separate commercial license. Good call...
 
You don't for Mandarins... The Federal List is law, even for the States. They cannot add to it, but thats not to say they won't try.
 
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So I dont need a permit to seel or keep Mandarins? If so AWESOME!
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And Giffy can you post some pics of your duck pens, or Aviaries?

Thanks for the help on foliage BBB! Now here are 3 more qs. Lol I am full of em'!


1) I plan on just buying one pair, and let them have babies.From thier babies I will keep a male and female and let that be my second pair. Is this okay, or will the genetics be messed up since they are from the same family?

2) In your post you said you could buy 2 pairs for 103$. (did you mean to say 1) Where is that? the cheapest I have seen is 90$.

3) BBB can you show me a pic of you aviary and setup? I would LOVE to see it!
 
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Like Matapatos said, you should be ok regarding Mandarins.................unless..............you live in a town that has an ordinance/law restrictions regarding poultry. (meaning you live in the city and have nosy neighbors)

I have alot of info and photos on my site: http://www.giffsfarm.com

giffy
 

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