Needing Advice with Budgies

Discussion in 'Caged Birds - Finches, Canaries, Cockatiels, Parro' started by loverofbirds14, Feb 4, 2014.

  1. loverofbirds14

    loverofbirds14 Out Of The Brooder

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    I have two budgies, as far as I know, the older one is a girl named Smudge and the younger one is a boy named Breeze. They are both under 3 years old. My budgies have had several incidents in the last six months. I have never actually witnessed it, but I have heard the screams and the flapping, when the boy attacks the girl. A couple of months ago, Smudge, ended up with a big bloody spot on her chest. She wouldn't stop picking at it and we thought she was going to die. It did heal though and since the two would call each other from across the room, we thought they might just need more room. So we got a bigger cage and kept them together during the day without a problem. Yesterday, Breeze attacked Smudge again. My mom saw it happen and immediately took Smudge out. She shook violently for a while with one of her wings held out. She was picking at the wing a little, but she seems fine now.

    Anyway, my mom thinks that I should get rid of Breeze. He is a little pain because he has always refused to be held and flies away from us whenever he can. I feel bad though because even though there is obviously a problem between the two, Smudge always dances for Breeze when they are together. I don't want to depress Smudge if I get rid of Breeze. Now Smudge is NOT a normal budgie. She is very people oriented and has a love relationship with her bell and mirrors, so maybe Breeze's disappearance wouldn't faze her.
    If anyone has any advice it would be appreciated.
     
  2. Drache

    Drache Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Have you tried simply keeping them in separate cages?
     
  3. loverofbirds14

    loverofbirds14 Out Of The Brooder

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    They are currently in separate cages, but is there really a point in keeping Breeze in a separate cage if he and Smudge are not together. Oh and another problem, even right now Breeze constantly paces his cage and calls to Smudge. I think its a kind of love/hate relationship, because he obviously wants to be with her, and I don't know what sets him off to attack her sometimes.
     
  4. Cooper Farms

    Cooper Farms Chillin' With My Peeps

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    he is just a mean rooster I had a Newhamp that was that way mean to my kids and very rough with the hems
     
  5. Drache

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    A lot of bad behaviour in parrots stems from boredom. If these were my birds, the first step I would make would be to completely rearranged their cage and provide them with loads of new toys and things to do.

    Next, I would try to reduce jealousy. You said that your female is very people-oriented but your male is not. You could try training sessions with him to help give him some attention and socialized him more.

    Of course there is a point to keeping Breeze in a separate cage. You don't want him hurting Smudge do you? You may have to face the chance that there is no easy-fix. Separating them. May be the only way to prevent injury, and while he may not like it at first he's more likely to get used to it than to cope well with being rehomed.
     
  6. loverofbirds14

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    I don't think that they are bored. We actually just rearranged their cages and they have plenty of new toys. We even put a box in Breeze's cage because it looked like he was trying to make a nest. He would tear up the newspaper on the bottom of the cage and haul big pieces of it all the way to the top of the cage before dropping it. Breeze loves his box, but so far he hasn't tried to put anything in it. I got Breeze when he was really little and I tried to do separate training sessions with him, but every time for weeks on end he would fly off right away and I would have to catch him and bring him back. I do try to get him alone sometimes, but he absolutely hates it. Unfortunately, I don't think this will be an easy fix. [​IMG] Thanks for the suggestions though.
     
  7. loverofbirds14

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    Well, poor Breeze fixed the problem himself. I went to cover them up the other night after being away all day and I found Breeze dead in the bottom his cage. I don't know what happened to him. :'(
     
  8. QueenBubbles

    QueenBubbles Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Such a sad story. Sorry about Breeze, even if he was being a meanie. Maybe he was acting out because he was sick?
     
  9. InTheJungle

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    Hi there! I breed budgies, and you said you "think" one is a boy and the other a girl. At sexual maturity, your boy would have a deep blue nostril area called a cere. The female's cere should be anywhere from light blue with white or beige around the nostrils, a reddish brown or completely beige. But I've had a blue female with a dark blue cere and she was very old. She was one of my best breeders and mommies.

    It is not normal for a male to attack unless he is fighting over a female. Females on the other hand will bicker and fight and literally kill other birds no matter what gender they are. Why? They don't need a reason. They are just very moody. Make sure your cage is not too small. They like space.

    To keep them together, make sure they are in a large cage, at least 18"x 18" square minimum. Space is a huge factor. And place colorful toys, swings, and a plastic slinky across the top of the cage so the have a tunnel to crawl in and out of. Absolutely no mirrors. Your birds will choose the bird in the mirror as their mate and ignore and attack anyone else who gets near. Place a few plastic spotted cat balls in the bottom of your cage. And a rope toy or two couldn't hurt, just trim loose threads. The idea is to make it so exciting and interesting that the budgies natural curiosity and playfulness will override any aggressiveness. Plus the spacious cage gives the other bird a chance to keep its distance.
     
  10. InTheJungle

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    Oh my I'm so sorry, I didn't see any updates on your post until after my reply posted. I'm so sorry for your loss.

    Budgies can pass from a broken heart, loneliness, or even a spook.

    Again my deepest sympathies :(
     

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