Nest destroyed, eggs in incubator, how long to hatch?

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  1. Victoria-nola

    Victoria-nola Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Without going into the whole long saga, my immediate problem is that my guineas were setting on a nest and I happened to find it so we were monitoring them. The pair were killed at night a few days later, and that same day I realized it and brought the eggs in and put them in my incubator, despite the fact they were cold. They all have developed as I can see by candling. My question is, how do I know how long to expect them to need incubation on the egg turner, and when should I remove the turner for the "last 3 days" as per recommended practice? Should I give up on that idea and just watch for the first pip and then remove the turner?

    Today 5/13 is the 13th day they've been in the incubator. I don't know for sure how many days before that the hen was setting on the nest. I discovered the nest 5-7 days prior to the nest destruction, so it's at least that long, or 18-20 days total as of now. (Guineas typically set for ~28 days.)

    All the eggs have veins and apparent development, many of the eggs have distinct movement in them that respond to my speaking to the egg and handling during candling. Thoughts or suggestions? Thank you. (I also asked this question on the hatching forum.)
     
  2. R2elk

    R2elk Overrun With Chickens

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    If you are good at candling, you can tell when the keets have internally pipped. Once they have internally pipped, they will hatch within a day or two.

    I have had keets hatch in the incubator while the turner was on and not in a lockdown situation. Once I find a hatched keet, I shut the turner off and go to lockdown.

    Don't be surprised if all of the eggs are not at the same stage of development.

    Good luck.
     
  3. Victoria-nola

    Victoria-nola Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Thanks so much for your help. Yes, I do know what it looks like when they are internally pipped but I don't have a lot of confidence in my accuracy. Also, I am already pretty certain they are at different stages. So, say I decide that hatch is imminent on a particular egg-- and remove the turner. Should I keep turning the other eggs if they are behind? I guess how long I should continue to give the eggs a chance will be pretty obvious whether there is any continued movement inside or not. But I really need to know if I should be turning the less-developed eggs or not.
     
  4. granny hatchet

    granny hatchet Tastes like chicken Premium Member

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    someone please correct me if I am wrong but the first 2 weeks is important in turning so the chick dont stick. after that it becomes less important. When the first one hatches it will be turning the other eggs by rawling on them. I dont think you have much worry and I would turn it off/ take it out after the first internal pip.
     
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    granny hatchet Tastes like chicken Premium Member

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    :D this one hatched in my hand. 032.jpg
     
  6. R2elk

    R2elk Overrun With Chickens

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    You are correct. There is very little harm in guinea eggs not being turned after 3 weeks. But depending on the type of turner, eggs can also hatch while being turned. The problem is that some types of turners can be hazardous to newly hatched keets.
     
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    Thank you R2
     
  8. Victoria-nola

    Victoria-nola Chillin' With My Peeps

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    sweet. My first hatch with the guineas I currently have, I did the "dry incubation" method thinking I was doing the right thing. Of 26 live hatches, I had to help 18 of them because they were glued in. Some of them wound up opening in my hand because they were so vigorous once I broke out the membrane. That was a wonderful feeling, so your picture called that up. My current guinea eggs, I'm maintaining 50-55% humidity per the instructions that came with those first eggs last spring.
     
  9. Victoria-nola

    Victoria-nola Chillin' With My Peeps

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    I have a Hova-Bator 1583 with the egg turner (link below). I had heard that turners can injure hatchlings so I've been frantic to avoid that. Do you know anything about that turner? Thanks.
    http://incubatorwarehouse.com/hova-bator-egg-turner-chicken.html
     
  10. R2elk

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    Sorry, other than knowing that incubator has a good reputation, I don't really know anything about it. I use an old GQF 1202 cabinet incubator that has been altered. The keets have been hatching since this morning and there are at least 17 out so far.
     

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