New brahma variety or I'm I mistaken

[Flockking]

This is tresha my little princess she's a brahma and I first got her thinking she was buff variety but then she surprised me when she started developing the partridge patterns but a lighter version, could she a buff partridge? Or does anyone knows

 

[Flockking]

Her dad's a sure golden partridge to what I believe a light Sussex mum

 

[EggSighted4Life]

Her dad's a sure golden partridge to what I believe a light Sussex mum

If this is true then she'd be a cross breed and not a new Brahma variety. Technically speaking and according to my current understanding.. to make a new variety it must be repeatable and breed true at least 50% of the time.

That being said.. the feathered legs and pea comb (of Brahma) are genetically dominant features to clean legs and straight comb (of Sussex). Sometimes it makes a modified pea comb.. unless due to it dominance.. the pea combed bird is carrying a hidden gene for single/straight comb.. then it may throw some single combed offspring when bred to single comb (or others with hidden recessive traits).

The white skin of the Sussex *should* be dominant to the yellow skin of Brahma.. usually easiest seen on the bottom of the foot pad.. Here again unless due to it's dominant nature the white skinned bird is hiding a yellow skin gene.

Sometimes cross breeding and then breeding back to the standard of perfection IS how new varieties of breeds are achieved. I myself am still quite novice with regards to genetics. Hopefully you will get some more feedback!

Still your "little princess" is a very fun looking and beautiful bird.

 

[Flockking]

If this is true then she'd be a cross breed and not a new Brahma variety. Technically speaking and according to my current understanding.. to make a new variety it must be repeatable and breed true at least 50% of the time.

That being said.. the feathered legs and pea comb (of Brahma) are genetically dominant features to clean legs and straight comb (of Sussex). Sometimes it makes a modified pea comb.. unless due to it dominance.. the pea combed bird is carrying a hidden gene for single/straight comb.. then it may throw some single combed offspring when bred to single comb (or others with hidden recessive traits).

The white skin of the Sussex *should* be dominant to the yellow skin of Brahma.. usually easiest seen on the bottom of the foot pad.. Here again unless due to it's dominant nature the white skinned bird is hiding a yellow skin gene.

Sometimes cross breeding and then breeding back to the standard of perfection IS how new varieties of breeds are achieved. I myself am still quite novice with regards to genetics. Hopefully you will get some more feedback!

Still your "little princess" is a very fun looking and beautiful bird.

Sorry there seems to be a mistake when I said light Sussex I meant the brahma variety This

 

[Flockking]

So she is pure by breed but variety is my question

 

[EggSighted4Life]

Sorry there seems to be a mistake when I said light Sussex I meant the brahma variety This

Gotcha!

In that case.. it would only be a new variety if it breeds true.. otherwise it's just a Brahma not bred to or conforming to the standard of perfection. And would otherwise just be considered low quality with regards to showing or breeding. Just as a point of discussion, NO rudeness or judgement meant by that statement!

Sometimes if you're doing it on purpose and working to create a new color then it might be called a project color. You could call it buff partridge if you like.. but the partridge pattern is incomplete and she's technically gold in color not buff as they are different genes, though I can see why it's a bit confusing. Hope this is helpful.

Also, possibly worth noting.. if the cross was done the other way around with light Brahma (the pattern otherwise known as columbian in some other breeds) rooster over golden partridge hen.. they would be sexlinked at hatch with all males being the silver color and all hens being the golden color. The direction indicated in your first post does not create sex links.

Best wishes for more fun breeding outcomes!

 

[Flockking]

Gotcha!

In that case.. it would only be a new variety if it breeds true.. otherwise it's just a Brahma not bred to or conforming to the standard of perfection. And would otherwise just be considered low quality with regards to showing or breeding. Just as a point of discussion, NO rudeness or judgement meant by that statement!

Sometimes if you're doing it on purpose and working to create a new color then it might be called a project color. You could call it buff partridge if you like.. but the partridge pattern is incomplete and she's technically gold in color not buff as they are different genes, though I can see why it's a bit confusing. Hope this is helpful.

Also, possibly worth noting.. if the cross was done the other way around with light Brahma (the pattern otherwise known as columbian in some other breeds) rooster over golden partridge hen.. they would be sexlinked at hatch with all males being the silver color and all hens being the golden color. The direction indicated in your first post does not create sex links.

Best wishes for more fun breeding outcomes!

Bummer I guess my journey to create the perfect standard, colour wise even though it's just for my own contentment is gonna be a struggle and she's so perfect feather and structure wise

 

[The Moonshiner]

Also, possibly worth noting.. if the cross was done the other way around with light Brahma (the pattern otherwise known as columbian in some other breeds) rooster over golden partridge hen.. they would be sexlinked at hatch with all males being the silver color and all hens being the golden color. The direction indicated in your first post does not create sex links.

Na, you got that backwards. His chick is a sexlink.
Gold male over silver female produces gold pullets and silver/gold cockerels.
Silver is dominant to gold so the cockerels will appear silver.

 

[EggSighted4Life]

Na, you got that backwards. His chick is a sexlink.
Gold male over silver female produces gold pullets and silver/gold cockerels.
Silver is dominant to gold so the cockerels will appear silver.

I had found myself questioning why the pullet was still gold. I wonder WHY do I still mix it up, and therefore sometimes spread bad information.

Glad you caught it, thanks for the correction!

 

[Flockking]

Na, you got that backwards. His chick is a sexlink.
Gold male over silver female produces gold pullets and silver/gold cockerels.
Silver is dominant to gold so the cockerels will appear silver.

Silver!! Or you mean white?
So @The Moonshiner what would I call the females variety cus another is telling me it's a type of buff and now I'm confused