New Chicken keeper needs advice

I have a slightly different approach. I have a very secure pen that I've made as predator proof as possible. The coop is built solid but not a jail. I leave the pop door of the coop open all the time so the birds can enter and leave the coop when it suits them. It's the pen that provides the safety and security.

I don't have to obsess about being home by sunset to lock them in, or at dawn to let them out. We are all much happier. I can leave town for the weekend and not worry. When I'm home they get to run free in a fenced area that's adjacent to their secure pen. They can run back in whenever they feel like it; that's where the food and water are, too.

To make their pen secure we us half inch welded wire for the bottom 3 feet, then 2 x 4 welded wire for the top half. I've overlapped them and used heavy wire to secure it.
NEVER rely on chicken wire!
The reason I use 1/2" wire is because racoons can and WILL reach thru anything larger.
Under the dirt floor of the pen I used more 2 x 4 wire. At the edge of the pen the wire is bent up and overlaps the pen sides by a couple of inches. That's also wired together every few inches.
There is also an apron of 2 x 4 wire fencing that's attached to the bottom edge of the pen's sides and extends 18-24" out. If it's not attached a predator/dog can dig between the apron and the bottom edge of the pen. Don't forget the space in front of the pen's people door.
It's a very large, safe, secure cage.

On top we now have corrugated fiberglass roofing that's screwed down very securely. Originally we had just 2 x 4 wire, but it was also screwed down very securely.
Don't use staples, they pull out way too easily! Use screws and washers.
Keep food and water in the secure pen so it doesn't attract other critters at night.

You can see some pictures of what I did if you click on "my coop" below my avatar.

Good Luck and have great fun. And like someone earlier said, do the best you can then relax and enjoy your birds.
 
If you really want a secure run, it has to be entirely hardware cloth fastened securely to a sturdy support frame, fencing that goes underground a foot to stop the diggers, and with an electric line to keep away larger animals like dogs that could tear the fencing given enough time. Truly, you probably can't build anything that's 100% impenetrable but that would be closest.

My folks built what they thought was a secure run using graduated fencing (small holes at the bottom, 2x4 at the top) and they lost a 4-week chick and who knows how many eggs to a snake (rat snakes are excellent climbers, you know) and had several incidents with an opossum that was going after the feeder and any eggs it could find inside the coop. Animals can smell food even if they can't see it. It's also plenty big enough to allow in rats, mink, or weasels. So, they ended up adding electric fencing rather than rebuilding their run. So far, electricity is the best deterrent for 4-legged predators.
 
If you really want a secure run, it has to be entirely hardware cloth fastened securely to a sturdy support frame, fencing that goes underground a foot to stop the diggers, and with an electric line to keep away larger animals like dogs that could tear the fencing given enough time. Truly, you probably can't build anything that's 100% impenetrable but that would be closest.

My folks built what they thought was a secure run using graduated fencing (small holes at the bottom, 2x4 at the top) and they lost a 4-week chick and who knows how many eggs to a snake (rat snakes are excellent climbers, you know) and had several incidents with an opossum that was going after the feeder and any eggs it could find inside the coop. Animals can smell food even if they can't see it. It's also plenty big enough to allow in rats, mink, or weasels. So, they ended up adding electric fencing rather than rebuilding their run. So far, electricity is the best deterrent for 4-legged predators.

Good point about snakes and other creepy crawlers! We don't have those, so didn't build for them. I've heard electric fence is very effective when properly installed.

Can possums get into 2" spaces? I know rats can!
 
Thank you all for your great advice

I think that I am going to build a compound for our girls

I know that wire fence comes in lots of different thickness so I want to ask
what is the best recommended thickness ?

I dont want to pay for protection against every possible threat but I dont want
to have a mesh fence that any common preditor can get in to

What do you guys use?
I use 1/2 inch hardware cloth for the run, it is buried about 1 foot down and the top is enclosed with the hardware cloth because we have hawks and eagles around here. The hens sleep in an enclosed hen house with a wood floor that is locked up as tight as fort knox at night. I live in rural western Colorado, we have racoons, skunks, coyotes, foxes, bears, and stray dogs. Now if a bear wants in, he probably will get in. But I'm pretty sure that my hens are safe at night in the hen house from most predators. So far I've had one chicken taken, during the day, while they were free range by a stray dog and I was outside and not far from it when it happened. Not only does the hardware cloth help protect against the smaller predators, but it helps keep the sparrows and pigeons out of the run and out of the chicken feed. ( I'm not running an open buffet here.) Anyway hope this info helps.
Here is a link to some pics of my coop
https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/651753/ill-show-you-mine-if-you-show-me-yours-coops-that-is/20

Here is a link to the album where you can see the before and after remodel pics
https://www.backyardchickens.com/g/...3/33/33e27431_Paradeandothers013.jpeg&setName=
 
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Good point about snakes and other creepy crawlers! We don't have those, so didn't build for them. I've heard electric fence is very effective when properly installed.

Can possums get into 2" spaces? I know rats can!

Opossums can go through 2x4. Probably not 2x2 but a rat wouldn't even be slowed down by that (they only need a hole the size of a quarter). Ditto with snakes. I find it hard to believe there is a place where there aren't any snakes.
 
Snakes, weasels, mink, rats, skunks, possum, small coons,..are all killers that can fit in a very small opening, what have I missed...anything larger than one square inch is vulnerable.
 
Bull snakes likes to eat up my chickens eggs! :(

:(

We have a ton of snakes here (I literally stepped on one yesterday while raking leaves!) but I haven't found one in the coop yet. It is bound to happen eventually because I'm not going to spend the money to cover the entire run in hardware cloth. I just made it as difficult as I could for them by putting the nests on a shelf. They'll have to climb a glossy, painted wall to get up there.
 

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