I had been looking for help taming my homers since they were pretty afraid of me, and upon recommendation I tried peanuts. I started about a week ago just placing them on the ledges of my loft to get them to like the taste. Then I started standing closer to where I placed them, so they were sort of forced to come close to me to eat them. Eventually one of my four pigeons decided she was comfortable eating from my hand, and she's been doing that for a few days now. Tonight, the other three had to sit there and watch the one eat from my hand, and it was only a matter of time before they couldn't stand to watch much longer, and joined in on the action. So thank you all, especially Hokum Coco, for making the recommendations. Things are moving along well in my loft. I'm going to give these new fellas another week or so before letting them out again. Another thing I started doing was just filling my feeder up with a lot of food and giving it to them morning and evening for a timed period, rather than measuring out the amount I think they can eat in 15 minutes. I think this will allow me to be more precise, and will compel my birds to be more disciplined in responding to my feed calls (i.e., if you don't go eat when you hear the call, you miss out). I did this because, for whatever reason, recently my birds have been leaving their food sometimes and will eat it when they please. This was only recently, as most of the first month of having my birds they would for the most part frenzy over my feeding times. I think this may have happened because there are less birds in my loft after losing those two a few weeks ago. So I will try this timed method for now and see how it works. I have not yet opted to include water in the timed method, and I am continuing to keep fresh water in the loft at all times for them, especially in these hotter summer months. Any more advice is welcomed and greatly appreciated!