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New hatch dropping like flies.

Discussion in 'Emergencies / Diseases / Injuries and Cures' started by jenjscott, Apr 14, 2009.

  1. jenjscott

    jenjscott Mosquito Beach Poultry

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    I have a new hatch of mixed LF, Silkies, OEGB and Silver Sebrights. They hatched Sunday, Monday, and the last one came out of the incubator this morning. Everybody looked fine when I left the house at 9:30 this morning. At 11:45, the lady that cleans house for me called and said she heard the "babies crying" and went in to find 3 dead, and probably a dozen failing. Could Coccidia get new babies this fast? ( I have some 1 mo's being medicated right now due to a possible outbreak after moving to an outside brooder)

    Is there anything else that could effect them this fast? Any and all input appreciated.
     
  2. tdgill

    tdgill Chillin' With My Peeps

    awww no help here...just very sorry to hear! best wishes for some answers
     
  3. bawkbawkbawk

    bawkbawkbawk Chillin' With My Peeps

    new here, so know very little, but could there have been anything toxic used near them when she was cleaning?
     
  4. Sallyschickens

    Sallyschickens Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Right on bawkbawkbawk. That is the first thought that crossed my mind too. Anything toxic used near these chicks?
     
  5. chicklady63

    chicklady63 Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Yes, my first thought, also. Unfortunately fumes can and will kill them and quickly. I read on here recently where someone had this happen while using a teflon-coated pan to cook with and babies were being brooded nearby. Someone else mentioned that their eggs were not hatching well and wondered if it was fumes-related.
    It could be some sort of bacteria that they picked up in the incubator as well. I don't think cocci is that quick acting, at least I have never had chicks die so quickly and I have had some with cocci that I had time to notice symptoms on and treat successfully. Are you using a medicated starter?
    So sorry. I wish you luck and hope there are no more casualties.
     
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  6. Glenda L Heywood

    Glenda L Heywood Chillin' With My Peeps

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    STOP MEDICATING CHICKS
    the reason you gave is not the reason one medicates for cocccidiosis
    the ONLY reason to medicate for coccidiosis is IF they have it
    PLEASE EMAIL ME so I can help you get a full understandig on why you are medicating

    IF the nwly hatched chicks drank the medicated water THAT is why they died

    Your understanding of medication is too agressive.

    just because you moved them to a new brooder would not have given them coccidiosis that fast

    Sounds like you have it TOO hot in their incubator for them
    what temp do you keep it
    also if thy are too cold they would be huddled together and die

    but over heated chicks die spraddled out in brooder
    DO YOU have ample air not a draft but air coming into the brooder

    the reason I say too much heat is their chirping and chirping
    it should have only been 98 degrees with ample new air coming in not all closed up

    STOP medicating for coccidiosis a it is very hard on the gut of chicks
    especially IF they don't have coccidiosis

    email me [please so I can help
     
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  7. tdgill

    tdgill Chillin' With My Peeps

    wow. yeah. [​IMG]
    good analysis - is it possible that's the cause? describe more of the chicks behavior if you can or at least how you found them. Cocci would be noticeable it would seem.
     
  8. Glenda L Heywood

    Glenda L Heywood Chillin' With My Peeps

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    there would be nothing to cause coccidiosis in hew hatched birds
    this thought is ridiculous
    sorry but we hatched 3500 birds a yr for decades and NEVER had any problem with coccidiosis till older chicks were put on soil

    FEMALES are seriously damaged by unneccesary usage of ciccidiosis medication

    the symptoms of coccidiosis are
    ruffled feathers humped up chick in corner by self and only drinking water
    they will die in 4 days after thisstarts
    they only have watery discharge no manure
    The first day you notice this in chick
    you medicate whole group it is with
    the coccidiosis is spread by chick drinking from same waterer as rest of chicks

    you will see remarkable improvement in a day but medicater for 7 days
    I will post my recipe for coccidiosis
     
  9. jenjscott

    jenjscott Mosquito Beach Poultry

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    The reason I started the older chicks on medication: I found one dead chick and one hunched up chick about three days after moving them to an outdoor brooder and the light had been accidentally disconnected for the night. I thought they were a little old to get that cold, but brought the one in the house to warm her up. She seemed to enjoy the warmth but within several hours had two stools that looked like bloody water and she died very shortly after that. I started those chicks on amprollium. I also disinfected the pen and utensils where I had the sick chick with bleach water, 1:10 That was Saturday. These chicks started hatching on Sunday. That is the reason I was asking if there was any way that is could be coccidiosis, I am sorry if it is a ridiculous question. The new chicks did not have medicated water. They were not too hot, temp at the floor directly under the light was at 95. Some chicks were grouped (not piled) under the light, some were spaced out around part of the brooder, there is plenty of room for hot chicks to get out from under the light. Plenty of fresh air, but blocked from drafts at chick level. I am not responding by email because one of the purposes of a forum is that other people can learn from the questions and answers.
     
  10. azelgin

    azelgin Chillin' With My Peeps

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