I just said exactly that to my husband! Lol then I read your post!! Glad to hear someone else asked that question or I would have had to. We have got five full grown Brown Shavers which we have had a couple of months and two pekin bantam pullets who are too you g to be in the general population at the moment. Thanks to all at BYC for your wonderful advice, great forum to find out stuff, great, friendly people. We are in NZ .....no bears! lol.