New Opportunities for Gamefowl

[varidgerunner]

Maybe you could get an oriental scale reader to judge your bird's legs. Might be a way of preserving good blood, some cultures believe very strongly in it. You could incorporate that as part of the competition, not base everything on it, but make some points for having nice scales. It would be very hard to establish judging criteria, however. I think most everything is written in Vietnamese, on the subject.

Here is something that I found. http://www.staples.com/office/suppl...&kpid=396095&gclid=CPfR5f-IwcECFSZo7AodHwgAKQ

at $3.00 each and fifty to the box, they are a bit pricey, but maybe someone else could find a better deal, and figure out how to use them on a dummy. I'm just trying to point out that the technology is out there.

 

[varidgerunner]

The same company makes smaller ones, too. They measure in Gs. I have no idea what kind of G-force a cock could generate. But I'm thinking you could put several at different parts of the dummy, you could score based on how many shock stickers were tripped/how many Gs were registered, etc.

 

[JShubin]

The same company makes smaller ones, too. They measure in Gs. I have no idea what kind of G-force a cock could generate. But I'm thinking you could put several at different parts of the dummy, you could score based on how many shock stickers were tripped/how many Gs were registered, etc.

That is cool, we use those on packaging, but its a little low tech... I'd like to see a reuseable dummy that gives a digital readout. I work in Aerospace and we do a lot of testing with this accelerometers for head impact collosions. We measure acceleration force (G force) to determine how far a dummy moved and had much force it took. I dont know what the cost is for a system like that but I know prices are getting cheaper. For official competetions something like this would probably be needed

 

[varidgerunner]

Sometimes low-tech and generally available is better than high tech and prohibitively expensive. There are a few TV shows that I have seen use these shock strips on dummies, but I don't know how legitimate their results were. But it sounds like you are qualified to figure out what would do what we wanted. How many G-s would we be looking at in a kick?

 

[centrarchid]

You will need to be careful with what you think sensors mean. Will it be important to distinguish between impacts of legs or wings. Latter will have a lot more energy.

 

[RingedTeal]

Agreed from watching my layers when I had them they would more or less push with feet and actually "punch" with wings. As in they would hit with wings instead of attempting to push away.

 

[centrarchid]

Leg action to my eyes is such that spurs function as scratching weapons. Part of that based on being on the receiving end but also on damage resulting from their action on other birds. Penetration / stabbing seems to be exception rather than rule. They also extended with one leg ahead of the other. The occasional stabbing action may be facilitated by wings striking the same birds legs while they are extended. The measure of leg action could be done by affixing markers to each spur to determine location, size and frequency of strikes. I have been popped in meat of hand with penetration but is always had a scratch that terminates with the stab.

 

[RingedTeal]

Agreed they are right or left handed as a human is. I've been hit also but never by both spurs as you said it was always right or left and only penetrated when my 3 year old with about 4 inch spurs hit me.

 

[varidgerunner]

I guess I'm thinking more in terms of the orientals when thinking about measuring kick force. The pummeling action of some of the larger orientals would be interesting to measure. The Americans would need more of a measure of accuracy. So maybe shock strips and marking pads on the spurs. Break the dummy up into a score board and award points for hits as evidenced by the marker prints. Award points for tripping the shock strips, too.
As has been stated before, Orientals and American type would have to have separate classes to make it all fair.

 

[RingedTeal]

As centra said would need something like a marker and maybe something like a mirror on the dummy to really get the bird going. Also for Orientals sensors would need to be focused in head as Orientals are Head hunters more than body shots as they were developed for naked heel fighting. We would also need classes for Spanish birds also, and we would need to put the sensors in head and body for them as some of them are Head Hunters. Also Americans would need more in the body as they have been bred away from being Head Hunters.